From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: yarnton--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as a word processor Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:58:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <877dp90ysl.fsf@localhost> Reply-To: yarnton@tutanota.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17748"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Richard Stallman , Emacs Devel , Stefan Kangas , Gregory Heytings , Eli Zaretskii , =?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_Mart=C3=ADn?= To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 23 18:59:19 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ks8Pv-0004VD-7F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:59:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34580 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ks8Pu-0006Sj-AJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 12:59:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54800) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ks8PE-0005vJ-D6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 12:58:36 -0500 Original-Received: from w1.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.162]:58248) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ks8PC-0006wv-L5; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 12:58:36 -0500 Original-Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053BCFBF5DF; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 17:58:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1608746311; s=s1; d=tutanota.com; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=3x0eS9svwQk2Uvl4LhdGUO5Dx0cwaUkgFkJFkD6lD9E=; b=Sr5CnbFmFb7yPiHcl2f5IdR/TZ4LKYagJFXRG47AyTcryZbfqvAo/i4mj3cOPbTh 5s6lead5+qJJx+jEIJtbDoin9x7Ca6OHTeoUaw2ulBkfTCTSaKCpKcRuzCBSFHjLHiN n70m04MMnA88KAMKBT1WkWs/4/UXc2YnNafD4HxGVOrKu5twdOObRre7LAAk+zGunAo akeMXENiWzOEXwE8ojqzdDV/PKOLM0fdBDqpJt/Fb2bwtsXuT2hoZNGwX6v+piKD5wD s7oN68LkE/nl3fCoy0DDm/YdawQYJbPW1Q7dlNYY+y0Ryi4+APxX/qjlFsqSo1cRwBa xS9ZfZTN9Q== In-Reply-To: <877dp90ysl.fsf@localhost> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.162; envelope-from=yarnton@tutanota.com; helo=w1.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261628 Archived-At: >>> One area that could benefit from some improvements is reference >>> management. Org offers footnotes, which are not quite the same as >>> proper first-class references or citations. >>> >> >> Indeed, this is one of the worst parts of Org-mode now. But I have a >> hard time even conceptually dreaming up what an ideal UI would look >> like here. >> > > What about the UI developed by Prof. Kitchin [1]? > > [1] https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref > It's a great starting point, but I think references should be an integral part of Org. Otherwise, there is a lot of fragmentation: Using footnotes as references, org-ref references, other systems...