From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: mouse-1-click-follows-link: doc, Options menu, customize groups Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:16:59 -0700 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1115236943 8845 80.91.229.2 (4 May 2005 20:02:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 20:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 04 22:02:21 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DTQ4B-0004O8-TG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2005 22:01:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DTQBY-0000Fz-US for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:09:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DT9H3-0000Ri-G4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 22:06:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DT9Gz-0000PI-OH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 22:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DT9Gy-0000LM-2Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 22:06:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1DT9Ka-0002Ky-8P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 22:09:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.231] (helo=agminet04.oracle.com) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DT3tM-0006Xm-JC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 16:21:16 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet04.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agminet04.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j43KH40O006843 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:17:05 -0500 Original-Received: from rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.50]) by agminet04.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j43KH4d0006828 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:17:04 -0500 Original-Received: from rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j43KH3Ti003904 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:17:03 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw1-141-144-69-28.vpn.oracle.com [141.144.69.28]) by rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with SMTP id j43KH1uA003874 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:17:03 -0600 Original-To: "Emacs-Devel" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:36651 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:36651 I fired up GNU Emacs 21.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2005-01-30 on NONIQPC and discovered that mouse-1 was now following links. Not remembering the email thread about this, I looked in Emacs itself for how to turn this new behavior off. I didn't find anything about it in the Emacs manual or the Emacs Lisp manual. I searched everywhere for "mouse-1" (and that's a lot of hits). I tried looking in Customize by browsing groups. Starting at the top, I didn't see anything about "mouse", so I tried group "convenience" - to no avail. After I searched my emacs-devel email and found the name `mouse-1-follows-link', I searched Info for that, still to no avail. I tried `describe-variable' and then clicked the customize link, finding that the only group for this option is "mouse". Some questions: - Shouldn't this option be described in the Emacs manual? - Should this option perhaps be added to the Options menu? Maybe not, since this that menu is best for things that you are likely to change more than once. - Does it perhaps make sense to add _all_ options to the Options menu that change commonly used behavior from the previous Emacs version? Such options could be candidates for removal from the menu in later releases, but Emacs users will want to know how to turn off or modify any new default behavior that they discover. - Does it perhaps make sense to add "convenience" to the customize groups for this option? - Does it perhaps make sense to add "convenience" as a parent to the "mouse" customize group? Its only parents currently are "environment" and "editing".