From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:27:23 -0700 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1098041286 5687 80.91.229.6 (17 Oct 2004 19:28:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 17 21:27:55 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CJGh9-00074l-00 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:27:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CJGoO-0001C1-Mv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:35:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CJGoI-0001Bw-P7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:35:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CJGoI-0001Bk-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:35:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CJGoI-0001Bh-9a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:35:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [148.87.2.201] (helo=inet-mail1.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1CJGgj-0005e2-40 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:27:29 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmgw3.us.oracle.com (rgmgw3.us.oracle.com [138.1.191.12]) by inet-mail1.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id i9HJTsmZ012801 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from rgmgw3.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmgw3.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id i9HJRPOS018941 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:27:25 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw2-141-144-82-61.vpn.oracle.com [141.144.82.61]) by rgmgw3.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with SMTP id i9HJROs8018911 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:27:25 -0600 Original-To: "Emacs-Devel" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28529 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28529 Silly comment, I know, but this has been bugging me, so I guess I'll get it off my chest. The default mouse pointer for mouse-face text is now an index-finger pointing hand. That pointer is commonly used by Web browsers to indicate that the pointer is over a hyperlink or an action button, so that's presumably the reason it is now used in Emacs for the same thing. However, in common Web browsers, the mouse button to activate such a link or button is mouse-1, not mouse-2. What bugs me is that the index-finger pointer suggests to me to use mouse-1, because the index finger (wired, in my head, to mouse-1) is the one doing the pointing. I know, I must be nuts, but I still fall for this subliminal suggestion, and I try to click with mouse-1! Brain dead, I guess - time for a vacation. Anyway, I'm _not_ suggesting we use a pointer graphic with the middle finger :-)! But I wonder if anyone else thinks we should choose a different default pointer because of this possible confusion. No, I don't have an alternative pointer in mind. - Drew