From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Put `C-h' bindings that access Info on a common prefix key Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:38:42 -0700 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1158100759 20968 80.91.229.2 (12 Sep 2006 22:39:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:39:19 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 13 00:39:16 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GNGuI-0007wz-Gl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:39:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GNGuI-0006tH-2x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:39:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GNGu7-0006so-AL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:38:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GNGu3-0006sH-QW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:38:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GNGu3-0006sE-JV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:38:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [148.87.113.118] (helo=rgminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GNGvd-0007Df-Tu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:40:30 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmsgw02.us.oracle.com (rgmsgw02.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.52]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.6/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id k8CMcnQj004156 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:38:49 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw2-141-144-73-219.vpn.oracle.com [141.144.73.219]) by rgmsgw02.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with SMTP id k8CMcmCa025675 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:38:48 -0600 Original-To: "Emacs-Devel" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Importance: Normal X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:59747 Archived-At: After the release: Why not put all `C-h' commands that access Info on a prefix key: `C-h C-i'? Currently, we have these bindings for such commands: `C-h F' - Info-goto-emacs-command-node `C-h r' - info-emacs-manual `C-h S' - info-lookup-symbol These are mixed in with other `C-h' commands that don't access Info - `C-h f' describes a command (function), and `C-h F' looks it up in the manual. I think it would be tidier, and probably more convenient (easier to remember), to put all of these on the prefix `C-h C-i'. For one thing, that would free up keys for other possible help commands. For another, we could pick better mnemonics - `k' for key (Info-goto-emacs-key-command-node), `c' for command (Info-goto-emacs-command-node), `h' for help (info-help), `f' for file (info-lookup-file), `e' for Emacs (info-emacs-manual)... The current mnemonics are not that great, and they can confuse people (`s' for syntax, `S' for symbol - not the same relation as `f' and `F'). Since Info commands form a subclass of the help commands, let's give them their own (sub) prefix key. WDOT?