From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Kelly Dean" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rant - Emacs mail is not user friendly Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 09:48:25 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5468E39E.6040807@porkrind.org> <87r3x2dahs.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416231469 30189 80.91.229.3 (17 Nov 2014 13:37:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:37:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stephen Berman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 17 14:37:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XqMUv-0003dD-23 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:37:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47951 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqMUu-0001QA-GY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 08:37:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38292) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqJFE-0007OK-8p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 05:09:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqJF3-00009y-P4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 05:09:16 -0500 Original-Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:c:538::196]:34044) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqJF3-00009q-Ig for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 05:09:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mfilter12-d.gandi.net (mfilter12-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.129]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69E7172113; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:09:03 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter12-d.gandi.net Original-Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]) by mfilter12-d.gandi.net (mfilter12-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oGiKxj6r+mhx; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:08:59 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 73.169.42.166 Original-Received: from localhost (c-73-169-42-166.hsd1.co.comcast.net [73.169.42.166]) (Authenticated sender: kelly@prtime.org) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6BA18172092; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:08:58 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87r3x2dahs.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4b98:c:538::196 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 08:37:36 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:177400 Archived-At: Stephen Berman wrote: >> Last problem that I do care about is that Emacs keeps inserting line >> breaks after 72 characters, so I have to switch out of message-mode or >> copy/paste from another buffer to make it stop doing that because I >> can't find the setting to turn it off. Why is it turned on by default? >> Modern email readers do have word-wrap, after all. Even Emacs. > > Does customizing message-fill-column do what you want? Yes, thanks, and David Caldwell pointed out that I can just disable auto-= fill-mode. I remember reading about Emacs's hard-wrap =E2=80=9Ffilling=E2= =80=9D feature a couple years ago, but I knew it was a feature I'd never = want to use, so I ignored it and forgot what it was called.