From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:46:51 -0800 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108058383 27589 80.91.229.2 (10 Feb 2005 17:59:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 10 18:59:43 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CzIaE-0006uj-2o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:58:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CzIew-0001Dn-K2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:03:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CzIeI-0001C6-Nk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:02:42 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CzIeF-0001Aa-2r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:02:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CzIeE-0001A4-TL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:02:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.231] (helo=agminet04.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1CzIP0-0001Si-TA; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:46:55 -0500 Original-Received: from agminet04.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agminet04.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j1AHkrC9011734; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:46:53 -0800 Original-Received: from rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com [138.1.191.50]) by agminet04.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j1AHkqUv011691; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:46:52 -0800 Original-Received: from rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j1AHkpK1009799; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:46:51 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dradams-lap.us.oracle.com [130.35.177.126]) by rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with SMTP id j1AHkpsb009785 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:46:51 -0700 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33196 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33196 I am not sure whether the change from S => F,C into S => F is a good idea. Agreed. See proposal above. What does "proposal above" refer to? I don't see anything that appears to relate to this. My bad. I read what you wrote backward, I guess. The proposal I meant was my proposal of 2/6/2005, which was also quoted in the mail you quote: Here is what I would propose: Set All (F => C) Save All (F => C,S) Get All Standard (D => F) Saved (S => F) Current (C => F) 1. Each button name includes "All". Likewise for menu-bar menu items. 2. The "resetting" actions only fill the edit field; they do not set the current value. 3. The "resetting" actions are combined in a button menu (pulldown list). My reply to a different message also makes clear that I still think S => F is preferable to S => C,F: No; I think we should avoid Reset to Saved. First, because it uses the confusing term "Reset" (which means other things in many preference editors). Second, it is simply Get All Saved followed by Set All, which is just two clicks and is much clearer. I don't see the disadvantage of the first group above. Why is F => C,S helpful/needed? However, there is a typo there also. The last line should have S => F,C instead of F => S,C. To be clear: I prefer not to have S => F,C (Reset to Saved), but to have instead S => F (Get All Saved) followed by F => C (Set All). Sorry for the confusion.