From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:12:45 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <FDELKNEBLPKKDCEBEJCBKEOCCKAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200501041555.j04FtG815571@raven.dms.auburn.edu>
> So, it sounds like perhaps we should reconsider what
> the aim of this
> so-called "initial Lisp expression" is. What is the
> need that its display is meant to satisfy?
The idea is to allow the user to edit the *unevaluated* expression
that is used to initialize the variable at start-up.
That is apparently not what it does. If you set, say,
auto-revert-interval, which is 5 by default, to 10 and save for
future sessions, then set it to 20 for this session only, "show
initial Lisp expression" will show 10, not 5.
I think you mean "will show 10, not (if window-system 'x 2)".
IOW, if this was supposed to show the unevaluated defining Lisp EXPRESSION
at installment, then you are saying that it doesn't - it shows the
last-saved VALUE (as a sexp). Two differences here: 1) when it was defined
(installment vs last save), 2) uneval'd vs eval'd.
It is most useful to see:
1) The current defining Lisp sexp (not necessarily the definition at
installment time, since another library might have modified the def). The
best way to make this available is with a link to the source code - a la
`C-h v'.
2) The current value of the variable as a sexp - a la `C-h v'. This is not
the same as the last-saved value. (The last-saved value is available in the
custom file/.emacs.)
Neither of these is currently available. The "initial Lisp expression"
should be dropped in favor of these two display options.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-04 18:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-02 6:41 Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers Drew Adams
2005-01-02 13:27 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-02 19:48 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-02 20:44 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-02 23:52 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 16:55 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-03 17:13 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 17:20 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-03 17:57 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-04 9:03 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 9:10 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 9:26 ` Miles Bader
2005-01-04 10:16 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 15:55 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-04 18:12 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2005-01-04 18:27 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-04 19:50 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-05 8:33 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-05 17:50 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-02 20:25 ` Reiner Steib
2005-01-02 20:34 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-01-02 23:52 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 0:35 ` Stefan
2005-01-03 1:57 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 17:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-03 20:45 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-04 9:46 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 18:12 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-05 3:31 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-05 17:31 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-05 20:48 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-05 21:43 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-05 21:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-06 9:06 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-06 15:26 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-06 20:23 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-06 19:05 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-06 19:55 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-06 20:30 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-24 22:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-09 3:23 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-04 9:24 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 14:13 ` Stefan
2005-01-04 19:54 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-04 20:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-05 20:07 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-05 20:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-06 19:56 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-05 8:48 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-03 17:47 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-03 20:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-04 1:58 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-03 7:51 ` David Kastrup
2005-01-04 0:54 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-05 3:31 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-05 4:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-06 3:46 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-06 13:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-07 2:49 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-06 19:56 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-07 4:17 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-07 23:04 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-04 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-03 17:28 ` drkm
2005-01-03 18:16 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-03 18:56 ` drkm
2005-01-04 9:49 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 9:32 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 12:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-04 18:12 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 0:58 ` Richard Stallman
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