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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: search-whitespace-regexp
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 16:28:33 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <FDELKNEBLPKKDCEBEJCBKEMGCLAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fc339e4a050206151717835d3b@mail.gmail.com>

    > > sometimes the actual whitespace matters.
    > Right: in *regexp* search.

    while people generally expect regexp searches to be a bit fuzzy, they
    might expect a non-regexp search to be exact. Since the fuzzy
    whitespace matching often "looks" like normal matching (because the
    majority of whitespace is in fact a single space), it might take some
    time to see what's going on, resulting in some subtle errors.
    This is particularly true if one embeds a search inside a keyboard
    macro [which I often do].

Plain (incremental) search should be a literal search. Regexp search should
rigorously respect the regexp. People don't expect either to be fuzzy.

The question is "Under what circumstances should typing a space be
interpreted as wanting to search for any amount of whitespace?"

This is unrelated to both plain search and regexp search. You might or might
not want this _input effect_ with either plain or regexp search.

This is akin to word search (as I think someone mentioned). Ultimately, a
word search or a space-means-whitespace search is implemented with a regexp
search - but the point in both cases is to provide a user-friendly way to do
it, instead of requiring users to know about regexps.

By default, neither `C-M-s' nor `C-s' should respect the user-friendly
space-input feature. Or, rather, the default behavior of each should be
determined by a user option - a la case-fold-search. And, regardless of the
value of this option, you should be able to toggle space-means-whitespace
searching from both `C-M-s' and `C-s', via a key sequence.

The question then becomes how to toggle this space-means-whitespace
searching? An obvious candidate is `C-s C-SPC'. (Some will no doubt argue
against this because it means you can't just end a search and set the mark
this way.)

  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-07  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-04 14:12 search-whitespace-regexp Chong Yidong
2005-02-04 14:36 ` search-whitespace-regexp Andreas Schwab
2005-02-04 15:22   ` search-whitespace-regexp Chong Yidong
2005-02-04 15:27   ` search-whitespace-regexp Chong Yidong
2005-02-04 15:17 ` search-whitespace-regexp Stefan Monnier
2005-02-04 15:55   ` search-whitespace-regexp Chong Yidong
2005-02-05 17:39 ` search-whitespace-regexp Richard Stallman
2005-02-06  1:59   ` search-whitespace-regexp Chong Yidong
2005-02-06 12:42     ` search-whitespace-regexp Richard Stallman
2005-02-06 16:21     ` search-whitespace-regexp Stefan Monnier
2005-02-06 22:39       ` search-whitespace-regexp Miles Bader
2005-02-06 22:49         ` search-whitespace-regexp Stefan Monnier
2005-02-06 23:17           ` search-whitespace-regexp Miles Bader
2005-02-07  0:28             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2005-02-07  0:41               ` search-whitespace-regexp Miles Bader
2005-02-07  1:36                 ` search-whitespace-regexp Chong Yidong
2005-02-07  4:12                   ` search-whitespace-regexp Drew Adams
2005-02-07  9:48                 ` search-whitespace-regexp Andreas Schwab
2005-02-07 20:51                 ` search-whitespace-regexp Richard Stallman
2005-02-07 20:51       ` search-whitespace-regexp Richard Stallman
2005-02-07 21:07         ` search-whitespace-regexp Stefan Monnier
2005-02-08  0:01           ` search-whitespace-regexp Miles Bader

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