From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Marshall, Simon" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: emacs 21.2 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:34:13 -0000 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1016818586 26851 127.0.0.1 (22 Mar 2002 17:36:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16oSxm-0006yy-00 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:36:26 +0100 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16oT4X-0000d3-00 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:43:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16oSxa-0005pD-00; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 12:36:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mail17.messagelabs.com ([62.231.131.67]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16oSvi-0005iT-00 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 12:34:19 -0500 X-VirusChecked: Checked Original-Received: (qmail 10951 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2002 17:29:02 -0000 Original-Received: from gull.midas-kapiti.com (HELO pigeon.misys.com) (193.115.208.67) by server-15.tower-17.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2002 17:29:02 -0000 Original-Received: FROM gull.misys.com BY pigeon.misys.com ; Fri Mar 22 17:34:15 2002 0000 Original-Received: by gull.midas-kapiti.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:34:16 -0000 Original-To: 'Juanma Barranquero' X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2140 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2140 > If I understand you right, you're saying that you consider pretesting > valuable for you if it is going to help to solve ASAP the problems = you > encounter/suffer. Not quite. Pretesting is worthwhile (for me) right-now-this-moment-as-I-speak if the effort I put in will result in fixes in the next release. If the effort will not result in fixes, I would be tempted to put it off until I think it will. After all, if my effort will not make a difference to any user (including me) until 21.3 or later, I'm thinking why bother putting that effort in for 21.2? It won't make any difference to anyone and it's not like I have time to burn. So, I thought my effort would be worthwhile for 21.2, but it turns out = I was wasting my time and I could've left it "until later" without it making any difference to Emacs for users (and pretesters if not developers). Ma=F1ana. The other point---"ASAP". I don't care if I don't get patches for = fixes to a pretest, though I'm happy to test them. I don't care if the next release with the fixes is not soon----I wouldn't be a pretester if that was the case. _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel