From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Chong Yidong'" <cyd@stupidchicken.com>, "'Leo'" <sdl.web@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: please make line-move-visual nil
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 17:53:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <F91A5F0008874B7F8539F4E38C302A80@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eiue83i7.fsf@cyd.mit.edu>
> During the course of Emacs development, the behavior of C-n
> and C-p have already evolved significantly, even before the
> line-move-visual change. For instance, they vscroll images
> and tall lines.
>
> The pros and cons of display line motion have been debated
> extensively,
This is about the _default value_. You have changed the default value.
> and I see no new points on either side of the debate.
What's new is that you have changed the *default value*.
> But since several people dislike the new behavior, I think it
> would be good to add an Options menu entry to disable it easily.
Sorry to say it this way, but that is a complete cop-out.
This is about the DEFAULT VALUE. This is not about the ease of customizing.
The default value should be nil. Except, if you insist, in specific buffers
where (some) users might find it useful - for example, text-mode buffers.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-25 0:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-24 12:30 please make line-move-visual nil Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-05-13 13:35 ` garyo
2009-05-13 23:59 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-05-14 0:06 ` garyo
2009-05-14 8:51 ` Teemu Likonen
2009-05-14 9:37 ` Antoine Levitt
2009-05-15 3:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-05-15 4:22 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-05-17 6:29 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-05-14 11:29 ` garyo
2009-05-14 15:37 ` Teemu Likonen
2009-05-15 2:45 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-05-15 14:31 ` Davis Herring
2009-05-17 6:29 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-05-17 10:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-17 20:28 ` Davis Herring
2009-05-24 22:33 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-24 23:18 ` Bastien
2009-05-24 23:18 ` Leo
2009-05-24 23:50 ` Chong Yidong
2009-05-24 23:58 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-05-25 8:05 ` Miles Bader
2009-05-25 0:53 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2009-05-25 1:03 ` Chong Yidong
2009-05-25 1:59 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-25 13:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-05-25 17:51 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-25 2:32 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-05-25 3:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-25 4:16 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-05-25 8:34 ` Bastien
2009-05-25 20:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-25 20:46 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-27 12:48 ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2009-05-27 12:51 ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2009-05-31 11:45 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-05-31 12:08 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-05-31 17:00 ` Miles Bader
2009-05-31 22:29 ` Bob Rogers
2009-06-01 2:33 ` Miles Bader
2009-06-01 9:22 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-06-01 9:54 ` Miles Bader
2009-06-01 9:59 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-06-05 22:13 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2009-05-31 13:09 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-06-01 2:39 ` Miles Bader
2009-05-31 21:19 ` Chong Yidong
2009-06-01 7:24 ` Mathias Megyei
2009-06-01 13:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-06-01 14:36 ` T.V. Raman
2009-06-01 16:20 ` Drew Adams
2009-06-01 17:56 ` Chong Yidong
2009-06-01 18:26 ` Drew Adams
2009-06-01 20:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-06-01 21:00 ` Drew Adams
2009-06-01 21:25 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-06-01 21:33 ` Drew Adams
2009-06-01 21:56 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-06-01 22:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-06-01 22:52 ` Drew Adams
2009-06-01 23:12 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-06-01 23:57 ` Drew Adams
2009-06-01 23:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-06-01 23:23 ` Drew Adams
2009-06-02 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-06-12 17:16 ` Drew Adams
2009-06-12 21:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-06-13 0:19 ` Drew Adams
2009-06-14 20:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-06-01 23:18 ` Drew Adams
2009-06-02 1:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-05-25 8:18 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-25 20:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-25 21:06 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-25 21:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-25 2:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-25 8:10 ` Miles Bader
2009-05-26 3:48 ` Chong Yidong
2009-05-24 23:53 ` David Reitter
2009-05-25 0:03 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-05-25 0:52 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-25 2:32 ` David Reitter
2009-05-25 8:35 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-25 2:26 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-05-25 2:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-05-25 4:16 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-05-25 8:16 ` Miles Bader
2009-05-25 9:29 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-05-25 10:16 ` Miles Bader
2009-05-26 0:13 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-05-28 10:38 ` David Kastrup
2009-05-28 11:23 ` Bastien
2009-05-28 13:38 ` Werner LEMBERG
2009-05-29 4:39 ` rms
2009-05-26 9:52 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-26 12:08 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-05-26 12:36 ` Rupert Swarbrick
2009-05-26 20:12 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-05-25 8:17 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-25 13:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-05-25 17:51 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-25 21:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-05-25 21:26 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-05-26 6:56 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-05-26 11:37 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-05-26 12:24 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-05-26 12:42 ` David Reitter
[not found] ` <m3hbz8c9qy.fsf@verona.se>
2009-05-26 12:58 ` David Reitter
2009-05-26 12:42 ` joakim
2009-05-26 13:54 ` Jason Rumney
2009-05-26 20:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-05-27 2:50 ` Miles Bader
2009-05-26 16:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-05-26 19:17 ` Tobias C. Rittweiler
2009-05-14 17:14 ` Bob Nnamtrop
2009-05-14 16:00 ` Shaun Johnson
2009-05-14 16:20 ` David Reitter
2009-05-14 18:17 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-15 5:32 ` David Reitter
2009-05-15 7:18 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-05-15 7:40 ` Stephen Berman
2009-05-15 7:58 ` Miles Bader
2009-05-15 14:14 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-15 14:21 ` Stephen Berman
2009-05-15 14:27 ` Miles Bader
2009-05-16 6:13 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-05-17 3:53 ` Stefan Monnier
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