From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: State of NS port Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:41:17 +0100 Message-ID: References: <69E12347-B799-48E4-AE1A-115365CEA4C8@gmail.com> <22C1B7A8E2294F08983ACE6BA77A7346@gmail.com> <20130112.155846.2267676142560540640.hanche@math.ntnu.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358008900 13264 80.91.229.3 (12 Jan 2013 16:41:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Harald Hanche-Olsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 12 17:41:58 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu49a-0006yp-6Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:41:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43244 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu49K-00033p-2B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 11:41:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42379) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu49B-00033S-IR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 11:41:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu495-0003PU-Cf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 11:41:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]:38788) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu495-0003PF-5y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 11:41:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87B39219 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:41:20 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (qmail 15927 invoked by uid 89); 12 Jan 2013 16:41:20 -0000 Original-Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 12 Jan 2013 16:41:20 -0000 Original-Received: from anon-174-201.vpn.ipredator.se (anon-174-201.vpn.ipredator.se [93.182.174.201]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 020547FA06C; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:41:17 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <20130112.155846.2267676142560540640.hanche@math.ntnu.no> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 62.20.26.67 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:156292 Archived-At: Hello. 12 jan 2013 kl. 15:58 skrev Harald Hanche-Olsen : > [Chris Zheng (2013-01-12 03:49:09 UTC)] >=20 >> I suffered this problem too, and it's because of two bug fixes after = I dig it awhile.=20 >>=20 >> bug#11484: 23.4; Scrolling leaves traces of old text behind >>=20 >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2012-05/msg00383.html >>=20 >> LCD-smoothing was turned off to fix this bug, >> [...] >> I simply revert these two fixes, and problem you mentioned is gone.=20= >=20 > IIRC, while LCD-smoothing was on, the display was rather the opposite > of crisp. The fuzziness led to quite a bit of eye strain on my part, > and I was very happy when kLCD-smoothing was turned off. >=20 > I have some complaints about the NS port myself, but rendering issues > is not among them. (Though clearly, something must have happened in > the font department: There are many more glyphs displayed as boxes in > the HELLO file than there used to.) I also prefer LCD-smoothing of, but I suspect it depends on the monitor = also. We can make off/on a user option. Jan D.