From: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Tree-sitter maturity
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 08:46:06 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <F6FCC71B-F511-4CD5-8518-5FEED0B72805@dancol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86plldwb7w.fsf@gnu.org>
On December 27, 2024 7:40:19 AM EST, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
>> Cc: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 10:54:29 +0000
>>
>> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>>
>> > If we add something like this to Emacs, there is an issue we need to
>> > take care about: to make carefully sure that it does not install
>> > any nonfree grammars. I don't know how those grammars are released,
>> > ir by whom, or how much they care about free software. We can't
>> > take for granted that they do.
>> >
>> > Perhaps we could check automatically that the grammar found is properly
>> > licenses, and disregard any grammars that are not free.
>> >
>> > By contrast, if grammars are going to be packaged and released for
>> > distros, and chosen for installation by users, then it is the user's
>> > responsibility, not Emacs's responsibility, to reject the nonfree ones
>> > (and the GNU/Linux distro might insist on that).
>>
>> It might take a while for that to happen, which is why I still believe
>> it would be better if tree-sitter major modes would populate
>> `treesit-language-source-alist' on their own, and point to the specific
>> checkouts that the major mode developer tested their implementation
>> against.
>
>We could have done that, but there's no way we could keep the value of
>treesit-language-source-alist up-to-date, because the grammar
>libraries put out new versions much more frequently than Emacs
>releases, especially if you consider libraries that have no official
>versions at all (in which case we can only point to some revision in
>their repository).
>
>The question that bothers me is how useful is it to have
>treesit-language-source-alist that is outdated? What do we expect the
>users to do with such an outdated value?
>
Why not just vendor all the grammars with the Emacs modes that use them?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-27 13:46 UTC|newest]
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2024-11-20 15:13 My resignation from Emacs development Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-20 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-20 16:23 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21 6:22 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-21 10:05 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21 11:23 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-21 11:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 10:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-21 12:26 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-20 16:42 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-20 17:04 ` tomas
2024-11-20 21:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-21 2:28 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-21 12:34 ` Tree-sitter maturity (was: My resignation from Emacs development) Peter Oliver
2024-11-23 13:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-24 2:10 ` Tree-sitter maturity Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <67428b3d.c80a0220.2f3036.adbdSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-17 22:11 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-18 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-19 1:40 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-19 8:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-20 9:13 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <6765355b.c80a0220.1a6b24.3117SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-20 9:29 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-23 0:43 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <6768b256.c80a0220.222b1b.64e6SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-24 1:20 ` Yuan Fu
[not found] ` <87frmfxm8y.fsf@>
2024-12-24 4:52 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-24 12:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 21:31 ` Xiyue Deng
2024-12-26 4:30 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-27 10:54 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 13:46 ` Daniel Colascione [this message]
2024-12-27 14:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 14:24 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-27 14:57 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 15:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-28 12:20 ` Peter Oliver
2024-12-28 12:23 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 14:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 15:05 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-27 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 15:37 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-28 1:08 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-27 14:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 18:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-28 7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 8:11 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-28 8:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-26 4:32 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-26 7:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-19 12:23 ` Peter Oliver
2024-12-19 12:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-19 13:15 ` Vincenzo Pupillo
2024-12-20 8:59 ` Björn Bidar
2024-11-21 13:01 ` My resignation from Emacs development Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-21 13:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 14:29 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-22 0:01 ` Po Lu
2024-11-22 7:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 8:14 ` Robert Pluim
2024-11-22 8:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 23:59 ` Po Lu
2024-11-23 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 16:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 5:35 ` Adam Porter
2024-11-22 7:24 ` Madhu
2024-11-22 8:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 9:26 ` Madhu
2024-11-22 12:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 12:40 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-22 13:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 13:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-22 14:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-25 4:28 ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-26 17:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-12-13 4:35 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-15 15:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-12-15 15:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-15 20:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-12-19 4:22 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-19 8:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 22:18 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-22 10:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 23:19 ` Adam Porter
2024-11-26 19:01 ` Daniel Radetsky
2024-11-26 19:51 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-27 2:18 ` Adam Porter
2024-11-27 9:36 ` Daniel Radetsky
2024-11-27 9:59 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-30 3:52 ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-30 7:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-30 16:22 ` Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was: My resignation from Emacs development] Drew Adams
2024-11-30 16:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-30 21:06 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-12-01 6:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-03 7:26 ` My resignation from Emacs development Richard Stallman
2024-12-03 13:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-30 16:21 ` Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was My resignation from Emacs development] Drew Adams
2024-11-30 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-30 21:09 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-12-01 6:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-01 19:23 ` Drew Adams
2024-12-03 7:25 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-03 13:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-06 4:48 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-02 4:09 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-02 13:04 ` Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-02 15:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-12-05 5:08 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-05 6:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-02 15:29 ` [External] : Re: Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was My resignation from Emacs development] Drew Adams
2024-11-27 2:06 ` My resignation from Emacs development Adam Porter
2024-11-27 9:17 ` Daniel Radetsky
2024-11-22 15:36 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-22 17:48 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-23 23:43 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-11-23 6:10 ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-23 7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 11:06 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-23 11:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 12:48 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-23 23:59 ` Adam Porter
2024-12-01 3:50 ` Sean Whitton
2024-12-01 6:19 ` tomas
2024-11-24 18:12 ` Suhail Singh
2024-11-26 4:56 ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-26 7:38 ` Suhail Singh
2024-11-21 5:59 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-22 11:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 11:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 10:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-23 11:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 13:39 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-21 19:01 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-21 19:19 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21 19:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 19:40 ` Jim Porter
2024-11-24 4:35 ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-21 23:57 ` Po Lu
2024-11-22 17:26 ` On committing significant and/or controversial changes (was: My resignation from Emacs development) Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-22 17:47 ` Ship Mints
2024-11-22 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-24 2:35 ` On committing significant and/or controversial changes Björn Bidar
2024-11-24 4:41 ` Adam Porter
2024-11-30 2:16 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <87ttbx73zu.fsf@>
2024-11-24 8:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 19:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 6:10 ` My resignation from Emacs development Richard Stallman
2024-11-23 8:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 6:10 ` Richard Stallman
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