From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "grischka" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scrollbar thumbs Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:10:48 +0100 Message-ID: References: <16F8B7E14CB049B9A860B703B0776C3F@editkapc><6FB20B525B45459297A5BB57A36F7A4E@editkapc> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1257282716 10787 80.91.229.12 (3 Nov 2009 21:11:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stefan Monnier" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 03 22:11:48 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N5QfK-0001GC-3H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:11:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53788 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N5QfJ-0003Y1-H4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:11:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N5Qez-0003OZ-AH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:11:25 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N5Qeu-0003ME-Nq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:11:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57792 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N5Qeu-0003M3-B4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:11:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:45122) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N5Qet-0007C7-OK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:11:20 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Nov 2009 21:11:17 -0000 Original-Received: from p5B0C6C33.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO editkapc) [91.12.108.51] by mail.gmx.net (mp049) with SMTP; 03 Nov 2009 22:11:17 +0100 X-Authenticated: #18588216 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18p08p5mLIpO4DpD9pE/PH0lIWfJRzORfGP5peWtw aZAxiAFiiwM+eM In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.79 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:116603 Archived-At: >> And the consistency aspect of "normal usage" being defined is simply that >> widgets are there to provide a consistent look & feel across applications. >> It seems inconsequent if on one hand you want to use a widget but on the >> other hand want to use it differently to 99% of the other clients. > > I don't want to use it differently. I only need to implement the check > in my own code rather than in theirs because doing it in theirs makes it > impossible for me to provide the behavior they want to see. It cannot be impossible to get standard behavior (no matter what it is) with the standard API, because otherwise the behavior would hardly spread enough to become standard :) --- grischka