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From: Jean-Christophe Helary <lists@traduction-libre.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs development...
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 16:08:54 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F137D66F-9CA8-490A-9295-1903698A9CA8@traduction-libre.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83r1enz453.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli, apologies for the very general aspect of my question.

In the first version of this mail I was mentioning that my understanding of the development environment was not sufficient and made the study of the package.el code difficult.

Right now, I use C-h f to find the function definitions and move around the code.

But when I run package.el to test it, I'd like to have a way to examine the values of variables as they evolve. Right now I use message and check the *Messages* buffer... It is not ideal.

And there are probably a few other things that would make work easier but that I am not aware of because I am not a developer.

Jean-Christophe 

> On Aug 21, 2021, at 15:46, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
>> From: Jean-Christophe Helary <lists@traduction-libre.org>
>> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 14:07:59 +0900
>> 
>> It just occurred to me that there was no section in the manual dedicated to developing for emacs proper.
> 
> The ELisp Intro and the ELisp Reference are supposed to be it.
> 
>> Something like what the elisp intro is, but for general development.
> 
> What is the difference between "general development" and the other
> kind (which presumably is covered in the Introduction)?
> 
>> For ex. is there a way to see the values of variables as I run the code, so that I don't need to modify the values of "message" here and there to have clues ?
> 
> See the chapter "Practicing Evaluation" in the ELisp Intro and
> "Evaluation" in the ELisp Reference.
> 
>> What are the things I need to know and the basic steps to have a proper working environment to develop for emacs?
> 
> There are too many of them to answer such a general question.  It also
> depends on your style of development.

-- 
Jean-Christophe Helary @brandelune
https://mac4translators.blogspot.com
https://sr.ht/~brandelune/omegat-as-a-book/




  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-21  7:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-21  5:07 Emacs development Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-21  6:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21  7:08   ` Jean-Christophe Helary [this message]
2021-08-21  7:16     ` Tassilo Horn
2021-08-21  7:50       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-21  7:54         ` Tassilo Horn
2021-08-21  8:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21 13:51           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21 22:00           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-21  8:08         ` Stephen Berman
2021-08-21 12:05         ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2021-08-21 12:28           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-21 14:08             ` Tim Cross
2021-08-21 15:00               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-21 23:09                 ` Tim Cross
2021-08-22  1:26                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-22  2:25                     ` Tim Cross
2021-08-22  2:15                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22  2:48                     ` Tim Cross
2021-08-22  7:47                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22  8:11                         ` Tim Cross
2021-08-22 13:54                           ` T.V Raman
2021-08-22 16:04                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-08-22 16:19                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-22 16:23                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-08-22 16:25                                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 16:43                                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-22 16:29                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 17:08                               ` T.V Raman
2021-08-22 17:44                                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 18:34                                   ` Stephen Berman
2021-08-22 23:12                                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-23  9:17                                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 14:41                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21 14:07           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21  8:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21  8:36 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-02-21  2:36 Sam Auciello
2015-02-21  3:52 ` Alexis
2015-02-21  8:56   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-21 10:07   ` Adam Sjøgren
2015-02-21 11:28     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-02-21 11:44       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-21 12:24         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2015-02-21 12:27           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-21 14:22             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2015-02-21 18:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-22 17:17                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2015-02-21 12:45         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-02-24 10:58     ` Filipp Gunbin

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