From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Info tutorial is out of date Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:37:58 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20060717094418.GC1234@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153154330 22752 80.91.229.2 (17 Jul 2006 16:38:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 17 18:38:47 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2W76-00010W-8f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:38:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2W75-0003wn-KN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:38:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2W6l-0003vk-5D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:38:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2W6j-0003uc-1h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:38:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2W6i-0003uZ-Ms for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:38:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.228] (helo=agminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1G2W9Q-0003Ka-4V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:40:56 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsmt251.oracle.com (rcsmt251.oracle.com [148.87.90.196]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k6HBQCA4032364 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:38:06 -0500 Original-Received: from dradams-lap.us.oracle.com by rcsmt251.oracle.com with ESMTP id 1573570871153154278; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:37:58 -0600 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20060717094418.GC1234@muc.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57194 Archived-At: There are surely disabled people who cannot use a mouse without severe difficulty. For "mouse" read "pointer device", and yes, for many disabled people it's *easier* to use a pointer device than a keyboard. But this shouldn't be our first criterion, anyway. I think it would be bad in an Emacs tutorial to create an impression that a mouse was needed. Agreed. Separating out the description of `n' and `p' to an appendix might well do this. Why? If those key sequences are documented, and are included in the tutorial (even if not at the beginning), and are visible in the menu-bar Info menu, and are available in a quick-help bound to `h', why would someone get the impression that a mouse is necessary?