From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: facemenu-unlisted-faces Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 09:55:13 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1152118605 30341 80.91.229.2 (5 Jul 2006 16:56:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 16:56:45 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 05 18:56:44 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FyAfr-0004DK-Me for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:56:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FyAfr-0006oX-AM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 12:56:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FyAev-0006X2-N6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 12:55:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FyAeu-0006WT-3w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 12:55:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FyAet-0006WN-UY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 12:55:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.228] (helo=agminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FyAet-0005NZ-VL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 12:55:28 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.50]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k65GtQ37005156 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2006 11:55:26 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dhcp-amer-whq-csvpn-gw3-141-144-80-101.vpn.oracle.com [141.144.80.101]) by rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with SMTP id k65GtO6s001805 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2006 10:55:25 -0600 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:56579 Archived-At: The point here is *not* to use the names (but to make them available via tooltip). That makes no sense. Showing the actual colors is useful; Useful for what? Colors *identify themselves*, by their appearance. Why do you want to read color names? For blind people, tooltips are available, or they can use the complete list of colors, which provide names. The quick color-choice menu or palette has only simple colors, whose names are not important (and can even get in the way, as I demonstrated with "Fuchsia"). If you need to use precisely the color "blanched almond", then you use the complete list of colors. hiding their names is not useful. Why not? it makes it easier for you to see the colors (swatches), reduces clutter and noise, and saves space.