From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: fancy splash screen Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 09:00:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: <85psdxxiiv.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1158336265 13537 80.91.229.2 (15 Sep 2006 16:04:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 15 18:04:25 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GOGAu-0004Rt-WD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:04:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GOGAs-0008A0-CR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:04:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GOG7N-0005yP-0g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:00:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GOG7L-0005xn-Ss for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:00:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GOG7L-0005xY-2w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:00:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [148.87.113.118] (helo=rgminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GOG9X-00022k-3J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:02:55 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmsgw02.us.oracle.com (rgmsgw02.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.52]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.6/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id k8FG0aP4001678 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:00:36 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw1-141-144-64-53.vpn.oracle.com [141.144.64.53]) by rgmsgw02.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with SMTP id k8FG0Zpl015316 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:00:35 -0600 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <85psdxxiiv.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:59878 Archived-At: > "Emacs" in "About Emacs" is not redundant in any way. If you have > multiple buffers, there is nothing that implies that one named only > "About" has help about Emacs. Most applications I know have exactly one "About" menu, and Emacs does not seem to be different in that respect. It's not about the menu; it's about the buffer name. There are lots of buffers whose content is "about" something, and some Emacs libraries might use that term in buffer names, for various purposes. You might have buffers "*About Foo Bar*" and "*About Toto*". The buffer about Emacs should be called "*About Emacs*" (possibly with "GNU"). A buffer name of just "*About*" does not clearly indicate what it is. > Is it good or bad to use "*...*"? I don't know. I tend to think it's > not needed here. Standard naming convention for buffers without associated files. Right. Thx. So "GNU Emacs" was also a poor choice for the buffer name for that reason. BTW, I think I've read about that convention explicitly somewhere, but I can't seem to find it in the Elisp manual. Shouldn't that be mentioned in node Tips or node Coding Conventions? Similarly, I don't see it mentioned in the Emacs manual. Shouldn't it be mentioned along with the use of space as first character for internal buffers (e.g. in node Select Buffer)? Node Buffers is perhaps a good place to mention use of both `*' and initial space in buffer names. That node gives examples of `*' buffers, without ever pointing out that they are buffers that are not normally visiting files. Another possibility is node List Buffers, which points out that *Help* is not visiting a file (but does not make the connection with `*' in the name).