From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 08:50:33 +0900 Message-ID: References: <874krvup4i.fsf@gnu.org> <835zcag76g.fsf@gnu.org> <87ftbenz0p.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="38072"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , van.ly+2020@sdf.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, excalamus@tutanota.com, Richard Stallman To: Bastien Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 02 01:51:30 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jfuDK-0009pd-Qn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Jun 2020 01:51:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60654 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jfuDJ-0003o8-RD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 19:51:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34650) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jfuCn-0003Ov-Tb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 19:50:57 -0400 Original-Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:36283) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jfuCj-0007by-C0; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 19:50:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [10.0.1.13] (pl19991.ag0304.nttpc.ne.jp [128.53.64.23]) (Authenticated sender: jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org) by relay10.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9BF02240003; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 23:50:37 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87ftbenz0p.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.178.230; envelope-from=jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org; helo=relay10.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/06/01 19:50:48 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_BL=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L3=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251746 Archived-At: > On Jun 2, 2020, at 8:32, Bastien wrote: >=20 > Eli Zaretskii writes: >=20 >>> From: Bastien >>> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2020 11:11:41 +0200 >>> Cc: excalamus@tutanota.com, Van Ly , >>> Richard Stallman >>>=20 >>>> What about collaborative editing? >>>=20 >>> FWIW, this is something Org users have been wanting for years. >>=20 >> What is missing in Emacs to make this possible? >=20 > I don't know for sure. >=20 > In the past, I was able to collaborate with a friend using an Emacs > extension called "Rudel", which lets two distant buffers communicate > with each other over the Gobby protocol. >=20 > https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Rudel indicates that the reference > implementation for the Gobby protocol is broken. I have not tried. >=20 > So perhaps the required work is not on the Emacs side, but on that=20 > of the protocol and its implementation. It looks like SubEthaEdit, the text editor that first provided solid = collaborative editing features on macos is now released under the MIT = license and its communication protocol is documented on emacswiki: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/SubEthaEditProtocol --=20 Jean-Christophe Helary @brandelune http://mac4translators.blogspot.com