From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Harper Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: OS X Lion and "ApplePressAndHoldEnabled" Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:22:39 -0600 Message-ID: References: <87pqmb2jd8.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <17EF6498-66EC-4AF5-9333-027AEE65EA64@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1237.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1308590861 2315 80.91.229.12 (20 Jun 2011 17:27:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tim Harper Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 20 19:27:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QYiG8-0001wX-QQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:27:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32917 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QYiG7-0005gP-Ga for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:27:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45809) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QYhFO-000444-MQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:22:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QYhFM-0000dY-SL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:22:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:59452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QYhFM-0000d6-ER for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:22:44 -0400 Original-Received: by iyl8 with SMTP id 8so5274990iyl.0 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:22:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to:x-mailer; bh=XQH7EBWce6y6/kuFpnxNl0Lm+CTwxKZ3Ps4Aa+0HvbM=; b=Kkyp99HGvFm0gnhK77PhX11avlF3n39ZpgbQxpMaesUGnHzxxeJu3L6l9VjMPXhhlT AqJSmvlPQ0V2ph+3JNggftnVb233pqSuyCsWrBwHOlfmYuK3FoZol1HeTgH4i6oTlgnW p+62K6rXcgr0WdNwDty+yMWqWQt7HFA5aVFk4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=WDj0bT5xvtxl/rVzPUpOgQ+7ttZwDQmRYjBnJAcoE87tRRKdj/aIXtRBMDOebL/4BD 72FOlyIPteSdLoplVrI777oDS7uzaT+sg+dRHlt5cSGEU5Y0TjObOvTqDor5rujSlz5b ervFHOl5NqU8LN06ma9jp/VA5aXIr1dLLTqdY= Original-Received: by 10.231.205.198 with SMTP id fr6mr5249012ibb.151.1308586961154; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.1.1.155] (66.236.74.194.ptr.us.xo.net [66.236.74.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v16sm3273505ibe.17.2011.06.20.09.22.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:22:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <17EF6498-66EC-4AF5-9333-027AEE65EA64@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1237.1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140726 Archived-At: > I can't find any documentation around the setting, any where. I = received the tip from a kind gentlemen on IRC (who then invited me to = champion the change myself, because for employer related reasons he's = unable to).=20 >=20 > I do know that press and hold is a new feature of OS X Lion. If I = hold the letter i, for example, I get a popup prompting to insert one of = the following: "=C3=AE =C3=AF =C3=AD =C4=AB =C4=AF =C3=AC" . >=20 > Terminal.app / MacVim.app don't inherit the new default (maybe the = MacVim developers knew it was coming? I don't know). I guess the apple = developers figured you don't really need to hold down a letter and have = it repeat a whole ton of times, which probably in 99% of use cases, = they're right. >=20 > Tim I've added the work-around to the wiki. I suppose it can saturate there = until the community decides to include it. I speculate there will be a = whole wave of Emacs users asking this question once OS X Lion is = released. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MacOSTweaks#toc7 Tim=