From: Summer Emacs <summeremacs@summerstar.me>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Emacs Newbie Info Pages
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:30:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <EE7D2B70-4778-42B5-B265-8C87995411E6@summerstar.me> (raw)
Hi everyone,
I posted a question in Reddit this morning about having an Emacs newbie info pages on the front of the default Emacs page for complete newbies and first-timers. I know that the splash page already has information links, which are very appreciated, but I think that first time users would be overwhelmed with the information and how to use it. The goal of this project would be the following:
1) A very visible (easy to see, and hard to miss) link at the top which says something like “New to Emacs? Click here!”
2) A simple “one page” info page with some general information about Emacs and suggested setups. This would include:
a) The link to the Emacs movement/editing tutorial (vital) and why it is necessary to go through it.
b) A quick overview for non-coders/devs on how Emacs is special and can be made to look like anything they want it to look like.
c) An explanation of how to configure Emacs in a basic way with a few links to some suggested configs to get started “out of the box” (I know this is contentious, please don’t bite my head off)
d) How they can download themes right away with some examples of some basic themes and links to some popular theme packages.
e) An explanation of some bigger packages which they might be interested in as non-coders (mostly writers or other office jobs) such as: Org-Mode, EWS, Denote, Org-Roam, Fontaine, etc…a quick explanation of what each one does, a link to the page where the information can be found.
f) How to use the configuration panels if they choose to go that route with a few quick examples for them to try out.
Now, a few things:
1) I’m not a dev. This is just my take from a non-dev perspective.
2) I’ve heard there was work on a wizard setup a while back but that it never went anywhere. My suggestion is to use the info pages instead of a wizard, but to make a newbie “home base” for new users which won’t overwhelm them. I’ve already written about 3 pages but it is very rough and needs a lot of work, links put in, and a lot of editing because my tone is very different from the tone of the manuals. I’ve never written a tutorial before, so I’m going to need some volunteers to help me with some of this stuff.
3) I don’t know what it takes to include such a thing into Emacs proper. I don’t know how to patch things, or know what the specifics are for submitting things in a proper way. Please don’t hold that against me - I’m willing to learn.
I wanted to write this email to put something concrete down rather than just say “Emacs needs to be better for newbs” and not do anything about it. Somebody suggest that I actually do, so I’m going to try.
I also don’t know if long emails are verboten here, so please excuse the length of this email. I”m used to writing large business projects and proposals where a few pages in length isn’t really much of an issue.
The reason I’m doing this:
I love Emacs, but I’m a special case and I know it. It was a sleepless week of learning how computer hard drives and what a CLI was during the lockdown of the pandemic eventually led me to Emacs. By then, I wasn’t put off as much by the initial welcome screen., But I know that many others might be. I’m not suggesting we change the welcome screen because I know that’s an issue which causes fights and division in the group - I’m just suggesting we have an area that is instantly accessible to allow users to see something that Emacs *could* be if they just learn a little bit. I hope that this is an acceptable and practical suggestion which does not reach for the stars but is more down to earth.
Thank you everyone who made it through this lengthy Email and I look forward to hearing from anyone with helpful suggestions, comments, and/or help.
Summer Emacs.
next reply other threads:[~2024-09-12 17:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-12 17:30 Summer Emacs [this message]
2024-09-12 18:26 ` Emacs Newbie Info Pages Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-12 18:45 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-12 19:17 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-13 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-13 7:36 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-13 7:39 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-13 14:46 ` Juergen Fenn
2024-09-13 12:28 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-12 18:29 ` Corwin Brust
2024-09-12 19:00 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-13 2:24 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-17 3:47 ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-17 10:58 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-17 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-17 14:12 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-17 14:48 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-17 16:45 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-18 1:09 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-17 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-17 16:49 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-17 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 3:51 ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-19 9:45 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-13 6:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-13 7:45 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-13 10:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-13 11:20 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-13 11:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-13 12:09 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-13 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-18 8:13 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-18 20:02 ` Juergen Fenn
2024-09-20 2:39 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-22 12:37 ` Peter Oliver
2024-09-22 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-13 6:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
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