From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Fermin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Question collaborative editing. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256415 Archived-At: ------EDEZRZY5NW4KCGKX82J6JS819O9O0S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seems like conclave is no longer maintained=2E What so you think about putting encryption in the default Rudel sever? It seems that works well, but I don't know how hard this can be=2E On 25 September 2020 02:22:39 CEST, Ergus wrote: >On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 11:41:27PM +0200, Fermin wrote: >>This is a great feature for Emacs, thanks to show me the existence of >Rudel, maybe the easiest aproach is to make it work with >>https://github=2Ecom/gobby/libinfinit >> >>Seems quite active, and the client is in a unstable state=2EWhat so you >guys think ? >> >>Regards=2E >> >Hi I am trying to find documentation about this and it seems there is >not too much available around about libinfinity; but it is installed in >my system, so it is a "stable" package somehow=2E > >The only issue I see so far is that it is oriented to gtk applications >which could be a problem for practical uses=2E > >OTOH I would prefer something less centralized with a p2p like >conclave; >but I am open to any idea that works=2E > >There is also Teletype and Tandem=2E=2E=2E the first for Atom and the oth= er >is >supposed to work with Sublime, Neovim and Apache=2E Which is very >attractive IMO because somehow will break our own burble to interact >with the rest of the world=2E=2E=2E But they have a node=2Ejs client-serv= er and >I am not sure how efficient will be to use that requiring python3 too=2E > >>On 24 September 2020 03:36:55 CEST, Ergus wrote: ------EDEZRZY5NW4KCGKX82J6JS819O9O0S Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seems like conclave is no longer maintained=2E
= What so you think about putting encryption in the default Rudel sever?
<= br>It seems that works well, but I don't know how hard this can be=2E

On 25 September 2020 02:22:39 CEST, Ergus = <spacibba@aol=2Ecom> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 11:41:27PM +0200, Fermin wro=
te:
This is a great fea=
ture for Emacs, thanks to show me the existence of Rudel, maybe the easiest=
 aproach is to make it work with
https://github=2Ecom/gobby/libinfinit

Seems quite act=
ive, and the client is in a unstable state=2EWhat so you guys think ?
Regards=2E

Hi I am trying to find documentation about=
 this and it seems there is
not too much available around about libinfin=
ity; but it is installed in
my system, so it is a "stable" package someh=
ow=2E

The only issue I see so far is that it is oriented to gtk appl=
ications
which could be a problem for practical uses=2E

OTOH I wo=
uld prefer something less centralized with a p2p like conclave;
but I am=
 open to any idea that works=2E

There is also Teletype and Tandem=2E=
=2E=2E the first for Atom and the other is
supposed to work with Sublime=
, Neovim and Apache=2E Which is very
attractive IMO because somehow will=
 break our own burble to interact
with the rest of the world=2E=2E=2E Bu=
t they have a node=2Ejs client-server and
I am not sure how efficient wi=
ll be to use that requiring python3 too=2E

On 24 September 2020 03:36:55 CEST, Ergus <spaci=
bba@aol=2Ecom> wrote:

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