From: chad <chadpbrown@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: Stephen Eglen <S.J.Eglen@damtp.cam.ac.uk>,
Emacs-Devel devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: icomplete-mode vs. iswitchb
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 09:11:45 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <EE2C4044-5DC0-4A77-99E7-8C8A69821982@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871u1iuuel.fsf@yandex.ru>
On 12 Dec 2013, at 04:26, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> wrote:
>
> - Present users with a somewhat complicated behavior in `find-file'
> case. Off the top of my head, opening a non-existent file with name
> similar to one existing file is non-intuitive: I don't think we want
> to force users to look through documentation for that `C-j' binding.
My experience matches this; I've seen multiple people quit using
ido because of this exact behavior (find-file'ing a new file), and
also because of how it opens directories in find-file (i.e. it
doesn't). I believe they ~all liked icomplete.
I would guess that an ido that didn't do this by default is probably
a more attractive default.
I get that many people prefer ido to iswitchb, and I think it'd be
great if emacs provided completion by default. I wonder if any of
the ido fans have tried icomplete? I believe that Stefan's long
term suggestion is that features merge from icomplete, ido, and
emacs' default completion (perhaps stopping by helm and anything
along the way?). Some people seem to be afraid that ido will be
somehow excised, which I don't think is going to happen.
I hope that helps,
~Chad
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Thread overview: 182+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-29 16:50 Finding packages to enable by default Tom
2013-11-29 17:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-29 18:54 ` Tom
2013-11-29 20:12 ` chad
2013-11-29 20:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-29 21:01 ` Tom
2013-11-29 21:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-29 22:13 ` Tom
2013-11-30 1:59 ` Glenn Morris
2013-11-30 4:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-30 6:34 ` Tom
2013-11-30 13:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-30 19:10 ` Glenn Morris
2013-12-01 9:01 ` Tom
2013-12-01 9:13 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-01 9:21 ` Tom
2013-12-01 9:33 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-01 15:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-01 16:42 ` Tom
2013-12-01 19:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-02 17:09 ` Tom
2013-12-02 17:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-03 17:05 ` Tom
2013-12-03 18:11 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-03 18:30 ` Tom
2013-12-03 19:18 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-03 19:32 ` Tom
2013-12-03 19:55 ` [RFC] Micro-Init files in GNU ELPA & Survey suggestions(Re: Finding packages to enable by default) Jambunathan K
2013-12-03 20:35 ` Tom
2013-12-04 5:04 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 5:29 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 15:50 ` [RFC] Micro-Init files in GNU ELPA Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-04 15:48 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-05 4:46 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-05 14:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-05 14:45 ` joakim
2013-12-05 16:33 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-05 16:56 ` T.V. Raman
2013-12-06 0:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 3:28 ` Tom Tromey
2013-12-06 3:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-05 23:18 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-06 1:34 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 8:26 ` Finding packages to enable by default Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 9:13 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 4:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-04 4:21 ` Andrew Hyatt
2013-12-04 5:46 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 16:08 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-04 20:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-04 20:32 ` Tom
2013-12-04 21:16 ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-04 21:36 ` Tom
2013-12-05 1:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 15:24 ` Davis Herring
2013-12-05 17:10 ` Tom
2013-12-05 18:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 23:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-04 21:13 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-12-04 21:18 ` Tom
2013-12-04 21:39 ` Tom
2013-12-04 22:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-05 7:00 ` martin rudalics
2013-12-05 8:51 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-05 18:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 18:57 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-05 23:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-06 0:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 2:07 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06 4:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 5:16 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06 5:53 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 6:05 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06 6:37 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 8:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06 8:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06 11:20 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 11:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06 11:42 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 13:57 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06 14:18 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 8:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06 8:21 ` martin rudalics
2013-12-06 17:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 17:40 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-12-07 22:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-08 17:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-12-08 21:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-10 1:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 3:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 14:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 14:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-08 20:23 ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-08 20:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-08 22:35 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-12-09 2:13 ` ada mode [was Re: Finding packages to enable by default] Glenn Morris
2013-12-12 16:42 ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-12 17:44 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-12-10 2:04 ` Finding packages to enable by default Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 17:59 ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-11 3:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 8:13 ` martin rudalics
2013-12-11 11:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 14:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 14:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 15:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-13 4:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-06 8:21 ` martin rudalics
2013-12-05 0:28 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-05 4:34 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 5:37 ` Josh
2013-12-06 5:46 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06 6:01 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 21:32 ` icomplete-mode vs. iswitchb Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05 1:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 2:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 12:45 ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05 13:26 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-05 18:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-08 15:44 ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-10 1:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-10 9:56 ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-11 14:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-22 18:24 ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-23 1:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-27 22:24 ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-05 8:10 ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05 18:57 ` Josh
2013-12-08 19:05 ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-08 19:09 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-09 18:39 ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-10 5:15 ` Josh
2013-12-11 4:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 18:09 ` Josh
2013-12-12 3:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 12:07 ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 12:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-12 12:41 ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 16:38 ` Josh
2013-12-12 17:11 ` chad [this message]
2013-12-13 2:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-13 2:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-13 3:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-12 18:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 18:53 ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 19:34 ` Josh
2013-12-12 17:15 ` Josh
2013-12-11 4:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 16:49 ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-06 17:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 23:07 ` Josh
2013-12-07 13:22 ` Stephen Eglen
2013-11-30 6:27 ` Finding packages to enable by default Tom
2013-11-30 19:06 ` Glenn Morris
2013-12-01 9:10 ` Tom
2013-12-01 22:55 ` Richard Stallman
2013-12-02 17:15 ` Tom
2013-12-05 19:48 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-30 5:34 ` Josh
2013-11-30 6:03 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-09 11:21 ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-16 12:07 ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-17 10:34 ` Jambunathan K
2014-06-19 15:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-19 22:54 ` Drew Adams
2014-06-19 23:57 ` Daimrod
2014-06-20 8:25 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20 9:25 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-06-20 12:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-20 13:38 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-20 15:17 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-20 19:49 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-21 1:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-21 13:18 ` wcheck-mode (was: Finding packages to enable by default) Teemu Likonen
2014-07-07 14:07 ` wcheck-mode Stefan Monnier
2014-06-20 14:44 ` Finding packages to enable by default Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 9:11 ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-06-21 21:51 ` Juri Linkov
2014-06-25 9:12 ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-06-21 22:16 ` Glenn Morris
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