From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Summary (Re: A system for localizing documentation strings) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:05:01 +0900 Message-ID: References: <795F38F4-7253-47DC-97DD-53BED4F0AB97@mx6.tiki.ne.jp> <46A9A6DA.9020908@swipnet.se> <86zm1imf2w.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <46A9B61B.60102@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1185534360 5654 80.91.229.12 (27 Jul 2007 11:06:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:06:00 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 27 13:05:53 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IENdO-00055D-No for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:05:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IENdN-0001lV-T2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:05:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IENdJ-0001ix-JX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:05:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IENdI-0001fn-4G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:05:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IENdH-0001ff-Up for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp9.tiki.ne.jp ([218.40.30.106]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IENdH-0006fd-2o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.11.4] (pl062.nas933.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp [210.136.182.62]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp9.tiki.ne.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l6RB5BJI047872 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:05:12 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp) In-Reply-To: <46A9B61B.60102@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 5.3-5.4 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:75650 Archived-At: On 27 juil. 07, at 18:08, Jan Dj=E4rv wrote: > I'd say no. Once upon a time there was some swedish MS Excel =20 > version that had > all functions translated to swedih. That didn't work so well when =20 > trying to > open a spreadsheet from the US... This is obviously a design problem and has little to do with =20 localization proper. The localized functions must map to some language agnostic key in the =20= code and then any localization of the function names (as is the case =20 with OpenOffice.org right now) becomes a non problematic task. But I am not arguing that current function names in emacs should be =20 localized. For me they are _already_ arbitrary strings that bear =20 little resemblance to English (defun anybody ?). Jean-Christophe Helary