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From: "Paul W. Rankin" via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: Naofumi Yasufuku <naofumi@yasufuku.dev>
Cc: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: src/nsterm.m: fix window tabbing on macOS
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 10:11:17 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <EA256C50-4633-43BC-96C6-4B6DDF2FD244@bydasein.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <65f1-60bcfd80-157-23301c40@168015757>


> On 7 Jun 2021, at 2:52 am, naofumi@yasufuku.dev wrote:
> 
> After this nsterm.m change for native tabs, I cannot realize the previous
> fullscreen frame behavior with macOS system preference 'Prefer tabs' settings.
> 
> 
> I think this native tabs feature should be choosable by user, as Alan said:

*It is* choosable by the user, via System Preferences. Please see the original discussion here:

> There are three positions someone could take:
> 
> 1. wants tabs in all macOS apps including Emacs.app
> 2. does not want tabs in any macOS apps including Emacs.app
> 3. wants tabs in all other macOS except for Emacs.app
> 
> Anyone in categories 1 and 2 will be covered by the option in System Preferences. Given that all I think we're doing here is removing old barrier code to have Emacs function with an OS's native window manager, anyone in the third category would be putting the onus on themselves to write code for additional functionality.

If you fall into the last category you cannot expect that the commit is reverted thus prohibiting every other person (including me) from using the native tabs just because you want some esoteric behaviour.

What should have been clear from the discussion is that achieving optimal native tab behaviour on macOS is going to be a *multi-step process*. This is just the first step. You are of course welcome to submit your own patches in the continuation of this process.




       reply	other threads:[~2021-06-07  0:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <65f1-60bcfd80-157-23301c40@168015757>
2021-06-07  0:11 ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2021-06-07 21:57   ` src/nsterm.m: fix window tabbing on macOS Alan Third
2021-05-08  9:26 Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-05-08 11:21 ` Alan Third
2021-05-08 12:27   ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-05-08 12:35     ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-05-10 19:53     ` Alan Third
2021-05-11  5:45       ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-05-11 19:20         ` chad
2021-05-12  9:47           ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-05-12 21:23         ` Alan Third
2021-05-13  5:46           ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-05-13 21:05             ` Alan Third
2021-05-16  9:16               ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-05-26 19:56                 ` Alan Third
2021-05-27 11:06                   ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2021-05-28  8:26                     ` martin rudalics
2021-05-28  8:28                       ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-05-28  8:36                         ` martin rudalics
2021-05-28  8:54                           ` Alan Third
2021-06-06  4:09                             ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-06-06  7:43                               ` martin rudalics
2021-05-28  9:07                           ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2021-05-28  9:21                             ` martin rudalics
2021-05-28  9:37                               ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-05-28  9:51                                 ` martin rudalics
2021-05-28 14:33                                   ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-05-28 20:52                                     ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2021-06-05 20:58                   ` Alan Third
2021-06-06  4:01                     ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-06-06  6:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-06  6:48                         ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-06-06  9:13                           ` Alan Third
     [not found]                             ` <8CCF969D-32AF-4542-8838-21DF4AA45523@yasufuku.dev>
2021-06-06 11:36                               ` Alan Third
2021-06-06 12:19                                 ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-06-06 18:56                                   ` Alan Third
2021-06-07  0:27                                     ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-06-07 22:13                                       ` Alan Third
2021-06-08  7:32                                         ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-06-08  8:59                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-09  8:35                                         ` martin rudalics
2021-06-09  8:48                                           ` Alan Third
2021-06-09 12:20                                             ` martin rudalics
2021-06-09 12:29                                               ` Alan Third

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