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From: Jean-Christophe Helary <lists@traduction-libre.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Cc: Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: package.el, a bug ? and a UX issue ?
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 08:55:52 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E949E3D5-44EC-4B91-95D5-647481728312@traduction-libre.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkm=da1pXhgyPyceZPEtRvy0ydwXacxZMgMO4aPrtjmFnew@mail.gmail.com>



> On Aug 21, 2021, at 5:57, Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> wrote:
> 
> Jean-Christophe Helary <lists@traduction-libre.org> writes:
> 
>> 1) after filtering on marked packages, clearing the filter removes the marks
>> 
>> After packages-list is updated, using U marks the packages that can be upgraded and a message that looks like this is displayed:
>> 
>> Packages marked for upgrading: 5
>> 
>> When I filter the list with package-menu-filter-marked (/ m) I get the marked list of packages to upgrade.
>> 
>> When I clear the filter with package-menu-clear-filter (/ /) I go back to the original list *but* all the marks for upgrading are gone: when I hit x expecting to be able to install the marked packages, I get "No operations specified"...
> 
> Sounds like a bug to me.
> 
>> 2) The upgrade messages are not very useful
>> 
>> So, the number of packages to upgrade is displayed.
>> 
>> This comes from package-menu--mark-upgrades-1 which has:
>> 
>> (message "Packages marked for upgrading: %d" (length upgrades))
>> 
>> "upgrades" contains a list of new packages including their new version number, but we only have the length of it.
>> 
>> If I hit X now, I have the list of old packages with their old version number and a "upgrade y or n" message that does not leave much room for details. The old version number
>> 
>> So, I'm wondering if it would not be a better user experience to have the U command above directly display the list of packages with package-menu-filter-marked instead ?
>> 
>> That way, the user can still directly use X to proceed, or eventually go back to the package list and add packages (that's, if the issue 1 above did not exist).
> 
> Makes sense to me.  I'm not sure if we could do better than
> package-menu-filter-marked, but perhaps that could be good for a
> start.
> 
>> Are the two points above reasonable issues to work on ?
> 
> I think so, yes.  Both sound like pretty obvious improvements, so
> patches would be welcome.

Thank you Stephan, I'll try to produce something in a reasonable time frame. Is it better to file a bug report to make sure the issues are registered somewhere?

-- 
Jean-Christophe Helary @brandelune
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-20 23:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-20 14:29 package.el, a bug ? and a UX issue ? Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-20 20:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-08-20 23:55   ` Jean-Christophe Helary [this message]
2021-08-23 12:33     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-08-23 13:11       ` Jean-Christophe Helary

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