From: Ivan Andrus <darthandrus@gmail.com>
To: Paul Michael Reilly <pmr@pajato.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X development
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:32:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E89DFA43-DE4A-4DF9-993A-AE47C8D91060@gmail.com> (raw)
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On Jul 13, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Paul Michael Reilly wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:54 PM, John Wiegley <johnw@newartisans.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> writes:
>
> > This might be true in some sense, but it is not practical. GNUStep does not
> > get much attention in Emacs, but it is more likely that a developer that has
> > looked at the OSX code takes a stab at it if they are similar and use the
> > same API:s. If we bring in the Mac port, I think we must drop GNUStep due
> > to lack of developer time.
>
> Isn't the lack of developer time being spent on GNUstep a fact that there
> aren't many developers interested in maintaining it?
>
> By not splitting these two, you are losing out on the consistent efforts of
> Yamamoto Mitsuharu, who has done a superlative job at providing an excellent
> experience for Mac users. If we use his code, we also gain him as an active
> developer for a very active platform. By sticking with GNUstep, however much
> the FSF may want that, we are restricting ourselves to a developer pool
> interested in GNUstep -- which is not going to include many people from the
> Mac development camp.
>
> If there were another alternative to the ns tree that would produce an OS X Emacs binary, I would build it in a heartbeat and then choose between the two which one I will put time into supporting. Seems crazy to me not to give Yamamoto's tree a chance to grow. Is there a git-able source tree somewhere or is it strictly a patch on top of the ns tree?
There is https://github.com/railwaycat/emacs-mac-port though it's not maintained by Yamamoto as near as I can tell.
-Ivan
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Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-12 4:06 Emacs on OS X development Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-12 7:23 ` Rasmus
2011-09-12 7:59 ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-13 16:37 ` Adrian Robert
2011-09-13 17:51 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-13 18:27 ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-13 18:43 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-13 18:56 ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-13 19:19 ` David Reitter
2011-09-14 1:13 ` Leo
2011-09-14 1:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-13 0:23 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 0:57 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-13 1:18 ` chad
2012-07-13 1:07 ` chad
2012-07-13 3:12 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-20 13:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-21 9:40 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-21 14:02 ` Michael Albinus
2012-07-24 6:39 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-25 13:11 ` Michael Albinus
2012-07-21 16:53 ` chad
2012-07-24 13:04 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-24 14:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-25 3:00 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-25 14:41 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-26 22:58 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-29 17:58 ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-29 22:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-30 0:04 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-07-30 3:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-30 4:48 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-07-30 5:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-30 22:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-30 23:01 ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-31 1:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-07-31 13:50 ` Nix
2012-07-31 15:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-08-02 5:16 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-08-03 21:15 ` Dave Abrahams
2012-07-31 18:31 ` Adrian Robert
2012-08-03 20:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-08-03 20:28 ` Adrian Robert
2012-08-05 12:51 ` Jan Djärv
2012-12-21 17:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-23 14:50 ` Jan Djärv
2012-12-24 0:23 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-12-24 10:22 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-25 7:17 ` chad
2012-07-27 12:17 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-22 9:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-22 22:16 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-23 7:26 ` Ivan Andrus
2012-07-23 8:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-23 13:52 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-23 19:45 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 20:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-23 23:12 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 20:20 ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-23 23:13 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 20:46 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-23 21:17 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-23 21:28 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-23 23:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-24 6:25 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-24 8:36 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-25 7:27 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-25 8:15 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-24 9:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-25 7:38 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-24 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-25 7:43 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-23 23:15 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 23:40 ` chad
2012-07-23 21:45 ` chad
2012-07-23 23:00 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-24 1:13 ` Leo
2012-07-23 18:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-13 3:28 ` Le Wang
2012-07-13 10:02 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-13 10:45 ` Ivan Andrus
2012-07-14 8:39 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-13 12:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-13 14:00 ` René Kyllingstad
2012-07-13 17:48 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 18:16 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-13 19:07 ` Glenn Morris
2012-07-13 19:54 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 20:12 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-13 20:32 ` Ivan Andrus [this message]
2012-07-13 21:04 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 21:44 ` chad
2012-07-13 22:30 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-14 10:35 ` Sudish Joseph
2012-07-14 9:00 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-14 22:56 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-15 0:54 ` Chong Yidong
2012-07-15 2:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-15 3:40 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-15 13:12 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-15 17:50 ` chad
2012-07-15 21:20 ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-15 21:34 ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-15 22:11 ` chad
2012-07-15 22:22 ` David Reitter
2012-07-18 0:16 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-18 2:56 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-18 3:42 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-18 8:21 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-18 20:43 ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-18 21:03 ` chad
2012-07-19 8:12 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-18 17:19 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-19 13:31 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-15 22:19 ` David Reitter
2012-07-16 2:20 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-17 10:18 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-17 12:14 ` William Stevenson
2012-07-15 21:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-13 17:48 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-14 2:21 ` chad
2011-09-14 3:00 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-14 12:54 ` Jan D.
2011-09-13 19:51 ` Jan Djärv
2011-09-13 19:57 ` Adrian Robert
2011-09-13 20:33 ` Jan Djärv
2011-09-13 20:05 ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-13 21:47 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-14 1:59 ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-14 2:09 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-14 14:10 ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-14 14:30 ` Stephen Eilert
2011-09-14 18:06 ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-15 4:11 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-13 1:14 ` Samuel Bronson
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