From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'martin rudalics'" <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: 'grischka' <grishka@gmx.de>,
'Stefan Monnier' <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: The window-pub branch
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 10:21:40 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E50C8BD9BC93498D8ABCFD4026D127A7@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CFE7567.4040903@gmx.at>
> So what about
> C-x 2
> M-: (select-window (next-window))
Dunno. Maybe _that_ demonstrates a M-: bug.
Or not (below you indicate that you've found a command-loop bug).
I suggest (again) that you take M-: out of the mix while trying to figure out if
there are `select-window' or `display-buffer' or command-loop bugs. Jumping off
to "fix" M-: is not the way to _start_.
> >> Moreover the modeline of the *scratch* window indicates that
> >> the window is selected
> >
> > Which it is. This is just further proof of that fact.
>
> That I'm "using a command that evaluates a sexp and then restores the
> window selection"?
No, that the *scratch* window was in fact selected. That was the question
(remember?). It was claimed that the window wasn't being selected, as
demonstrated by text insertion not going there.
> > No, input does not go to the other frame. Not during the
> > evaluation of the sexp given to M-:. It is only _after_
> > M-: is finished that further input goes to the
> > window that was originally selected.
>
> Even in the C-x 2 example?
There is no other frame in your C-x 2 example. But yes, the `select-window'
still _does_ select the window. Again, use (progn (select-window...) (insert
"ABC")) to see that.
Your C-x 2 example shows that M-: does not always _restore_ the window
selection. But it does not show that `select-window' does not select the window
for insertion.
But again, I think your conversation is not about M-:. The original M-: example
was supposed to demonstrate a bug in `select-window'. My point was that it does
not do that. When you use M-: you introduce additional behavior - you are not
just testing evaluation of a `select-window' sexp.
> >> The problem is within the interaction between Emacs and the window
> >> manager. It does not depend on M-:.
> >
> > What problem? The fact that _after_ M-: the same window
> > is selected as before it? That behavior certainly _does_
> > depend on M-:.
> >
> > You have not shown any bug in `select-window'.
>
> Indeed.
So I guess we are agreed on that, at least. A bug in `select-window' should be
demonstrated without recourse to M-:.
It's quite possible that there are bugs in all of M-:, select-window, and
display-buffer, but they should be diagnosed separately.
> > You've just gotten confused because M-: does not only
> > evaluate a sexp. Take M-: out of the equation and
> > then try to demonstrate the supposed `select-window' bug.
>
> It's a bug in the command loop. I can exhibit the same bug using
> `select-window' or `select-frame'.
Great, so you've found your answer. After fixing that problem you can revisit
the M-: behavior to see if you still think that M-: itself needs fixing.
I'm outta here. As I said, I don't even bind M-: to `eval-expression'
personally, so I shouldn't really care whether or not you "fix" it to become
something different.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-07 18:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-18 17:54 The window-pub branch grischka
2010-11-18 18:48 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-18 21:29 ` grischka
2010-11-19 8:00 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-19 13:38 ` grischka
2010-11-19 14:44 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-19 16:45 ` grischka
2010-11-20 9:19 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-20 14:43 ` grischka
2010-11-20 18:03 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-20 21:15 ` grischka
2010-11-21 9:49 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-21 13:34 ` grischka
2010-11-21 17:51 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-21 20:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-22 9:40 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-22 11:17 ` grischka
2010-11-22 11:27 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-22 11:43 ` grischka
2010-11-22 14:06 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-22 16:18 ` grischka
2010-11-22 17:30 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-22 19:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-23 7:40 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-23 14:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-23 15:30 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-22 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-22 17:30 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-22 19:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-23 7:41 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-23 14:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-23 15:31 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-23 16:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-23 17:18 ` martin rudalics
2010-12-04 18:10 ` grischka
2010-12-05 11:44 ` martin rudalics
2010-12-05 20:27 ` grischka
2010-12-06 9:23 ` martin rudalics
2010-12-06 17:43 ` grischka
2010-12-06 19:41 ` martin rudalics
2010-12-06 22:43 ` grischka
2010-12-06 23:05 ` Drew Adams
2010-12-07 7:23 ` grischka
2010-12-07 7:16 ` grischka
2011-01-09 19:50 ` martin rudalics
2010-12-07 8:18 ` martin rudalics
2010-12-07 15:38 ` Drew Adams
2010-12-07 16:38 ` grischka
2010-12-07 17:11 ` Drew Adams
2010-12-07 16:57 ` martin rudalics
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2010-12-07 17:43 ` Drew Adams
2010-12-07 17:56 ` martin rudalics
2010-12-07 18:21 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2010-11-22 21:34 ` Customizations and diff-list " Tom Breton (Tehom)
2010-11-23 7:42 ` martin rudalics
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2010-11-14 12:51 ` The window-pub branch (was Re: bug#7381: 24.0.50; Provide a hook run when a window is selected) Štěpán Němec
2010-11-14 18:59 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-14 20:55 ` The window-pub branch Štěpán Němec
2010-11-15 8:00 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-15 12:14 ` Štěpán Němec
2010-11-15 13:42 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-15 15:44 ` Štěpán Němec
2010-11-15 17:01 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-15 19:46 ` Štěpán Němec
2010-11-16 16:56 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-16 21:13 ` Štěpán Němec
2010-11-17 8:00 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-17 12:05 ` Štěpán Němec
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