From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: JD Smith Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unreliability in CVS access Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 12:36:37 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1151264233 11472 80.91.229.2 (25 Jun 2006 19:37:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:37:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms-response-1w@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 25 21:37:07 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FuaPi-0004iw-TS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:36:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FuaPi-0000D2-DR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:36:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FuaPW-0000Au-4B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:36:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FuaPV-00009r-B9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:36:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FuaPV-00009f-4p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:36:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [204.127.200.85] (helo=sccrmhc15.comcast.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FuabB-0002h8-Qy; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:48:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-71-226-53-75.hsd1.ar.comcast.net[71.226.53.75]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc15) with SMTP id <2006062519364101500956tne>; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:36:42 +0000 In-Reply-To: Original-To: rms@gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:56173 Archived-At: On Jun 24, 2006, at 4:22 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > Has anyone investigated this problem? It is a serious problem, > which is why I put it in FOR-RELEASE. > > There used to be a bad interaction between CVS and SSH. > A year ago I convinced the CVS developers to make a change > designed to solve the problem. Is this that same problem? > I am not sure, but the fact that the problem never happens > with Emacs 21 suggests the bug is in Emacs. > > JD Smith, are you using CVS thru SSH? > Does the problem go away with the latest CVS? > Does the latest CVS contain a fix for the problem > as they discussed it a year ago? Though I have not exercised CVS through SSH much recently, I have not had the problem recur (same CVS version). My vague impression was that it was related to a temporary or intermittent configuration issue on the server (e.g. savannah) side which persisted for several weeks in April, but I don't have much more to go on than that. Stefan Monnier mentioned other reports of the same or similar problem, so perhaps tracking those down would yield progress. Sorry I don't have more help to offer. I will certainly keep an eye out for recurrence. JD