From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: *scratch* buffer documentation Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 02:15:16 +0900 Message-ID: References: <69AD1F67-BA40-4342-996E-CAC6CC545E2A@traduction-libre.org> <83lfr0v4ib.fsf@gnu.org> <3B5C95CE-77A8-48DA-BD5D-6BD8D8828C30@traduction-libre.org> <83k16jqcpc.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3608.40.2.2.4\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="69744"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 26 18:15:34 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ikWjV-000I1O-Ms for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Dec 2019 18:15:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55326 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ikWjU-0002IF-J1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Dec 2019 12:15:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48997) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ikWjO-0002H1-0W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Dec 2019 12:15:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ikWjM-0001Rh-Hr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Dec 2019 12:15:25 -0500 Original-Received: from relay12.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.232]:51105) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ikWjM-0001RX-Bn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Dec 2019 12:15:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [172.20.10.3] (KD182251133105.au-net.ne.jp [182.251.133.105]) (Authenticated sender: jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org) by relay12.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 18AF9200002 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 2019 17:15:20 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83k16jqcpc.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.40.2.2.4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.70.178.232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:243656 Archived-At: > On Dec 27, 2019, at 1:22, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 > I hope you now agree that the information about killing unsaved > buffers is exactly where it should be. No, because what is important here is not whether a buffer is killed or = not, but what are the intrinsic properties of buffers. What you call "default behavior" and what =C3=93scar calls a corollary = of the kill-buffer description comes from the nature of buffers and that = nature is not properly explained. That explanation should come as the = second sentence of "19 Using Multiple Buffers". Or maybe the second = paragraph. I just tried something: create a buffer, type something, kill Emacs. Of course, when I restarted Emacs the buffer was gone. In any other editor I'd either have a warning that I'm going to lose = data or the data would have been automatically saved and would be = restored when I restarted the editor. This behavior is specific to Emacs and its buffers and should be = properly documented. Of course, now I don't need that documentation any more since it's been = discussed here for the last few hours. So it's likely that I won't = forget it. But that's not this kind of information persistence that I'm = after. Jean-Christophe Helary ----------------------------------------------- http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune