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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: "Björn Bidar" <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de>
Cc: emacs-devel-proposal@drmail.in, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A new filter-based customization interface
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 23:30:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1tQfWS-0001AV-O9@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bjx0oki1.fsf@> (message from Björn Bidar on Tue, 24 Dec 2024 23:10:14 +0200)

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  > > Even worse, there are people on the lis who do not block nonfree
  > > Javascript in their browsers.  By referring to that site, you are
  > > promoting the use of nonfree software!  And, in the process,
  > > legitimizing the use and distrbution of nonfree software -- which is
  > > the direct opposite of the goal of GNU.

  > People promote non-free software all the on this list e.g. with
  > @gmail in their addresses or talk about non-free operating systems.
  > There's even a package solely to support non-free software in Elpa.

I think we are miscommunicating.  Promoting nonfree software, in the
GNU Project, is much more specific than you envision.  It means urging
users to do something (now, or later) in a way that involves _their_
running nonfree software.  If you tell people to look at that page on
https://justpaste.it/, you're directing _them_ to run its nonfree
Javascript code.

Just talking about some nonfree software is not promoting it unless
you encourage or direct people to use it.  For instance, mentioning
Windows or MacOS as part of making GNU Emacs run on them, or saying
that it does, is not promoting those systems.  Sending mail that says
it is from gmail doesn't direct other people to use gmail -- they can
receive that message using any email facility.

Please read the node References in the GNU Coding Standards for
explanation of this concept.  With that explanation you'll understand
what this issue is about.

  > There's even a package solely to support non-free software in Elpa.

That _might_ be promoting nonfree software, or might not, depending on
details of what that package does.  Perhaos it mainly encourages
people who use that nonfree software to use Emacs with it.  That is a
good thing to do.

I would like to take a look at it and see what it does.
What is its name?


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-12-26  4:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-09  3:37 A new filter-based customization interface Moakt Temporary Email
2024-12-10 19:56 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-12  4:48   ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-24  4:51 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-24 21:10   ` Björn Bidar
     [not found]   ` <87bjx0oki1.fsf@>
2024-12-26  4:30     ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-26  4:30     ` Richard Stallman [this message]
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