From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: My resignation from Emacs development Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:22:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: <169c6564-4722-4338-a049-5f8f3ce69394@alphapapa.net> <86ldxbofgw.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1195"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 19 05:22:50 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tO83m-0000AW-B1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2024 05:22:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tO832-0007SG-7v; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:22:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tO831-0007S7-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:22:03 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tO830-0004uN-4R; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:22:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=aDbHel5Sp/RjVC+6C/7Fivk/UIvuXqkYgHlo3Y00P6Y=; b=XiJg/rYn9UxR /USqzxQKDG1UhPelpNYpLyzh2URqmDwVvQ510e06eFq4GT3XOLHR9X5tQqIhPJb41uHY6beoG/02S LLTOpchxqd/2b8/R7b3or1XYdC2vzPi682lgzCzBPi1PtcWMdZzu4GZJ27kBjepjpdfS4HRtkqflU h/8aghpfetZxlpHLyVK0ruivw4yUCN5eQmTKusI3oPdwtneMFafDHDG4cB36HaPSa5FpzQDXqKY+O wl6hGrgvdaS7+nvxuj2jt3SDUXIHB0URvLSli3ib9/9HG0+k6exhBVd0C5i2ufN0AK7mDimngAHWP HXl4/DIbQaiSKQj9q5L4pw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tO82z-0001L4-0q; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:22:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Alan Mackenzie on Sun, 15 Dec 2024 15:27:31 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326695 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > What has been implemented, "remapping", is a sort of extreme version of > advice: it supersedes a symbol's function by some other function. I agree. There are various cleaner ways to do this particular job. > What's more, it is the core Emacs functions which do this, not some > wierd user setting. CC Mode's symbol `c-mode' now sometimes means C > Mode, sometimes c-ts-mode. This situation is complex because what was previously a single operation has to be replaced by a choice of two partly similar operations. That is always somewhat messy, but we can make it less messy than this. One of the two new operations is, "Select C mode, no TS." the other new operation is, "Select my usual mode for C." They used to be entirely equiva;ent, but now they are not. We could define a name for each of those operations. Maybe there could be `c-no-ts-mode' and `c-ts-mode', as well as `c-mode' which would follow the user's previously stated choice between the other two. > The lack of available compromise is largely due to needing/wanting to > get the upcoming release released on time, without making any > significant changes to the code which might make an extra pretest > necessary. That is not necessarily a horrible error if it is _temporary_. What would be horrible is to let this hurried expedient decide the commands of Emacs forever. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)