From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was My resignation from Emacs development] Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2024 23:09:19 -0500 Message-ID: References: <169c6564-4722-4338-a049-5f8f3ce69394@alphapapa.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23109"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: adam@alphapapa.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 02 05:10:32 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tHxlW-0005ps-TO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2024 05:10:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tHxkR-0007aW-LX; Sun, 01 Dec 2024 23:09:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tHxkP-0007aG-Na for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2024 23:09:22 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tHxkO-0007yx-KW; Sun, 01 Dec 2024 23:09:20 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=0WU+ENVrYKCGSs9DixBnZ7SNbTw7E4uCJR4J0JgXQPY=; b=o/eSOKUKMj3r SxhhsdYjPeHJi5dY51ttx5P3Imd/JLP3zZqeG0osS8qoFIbY5Tt4cFI8Dia3wMSbO3eebnVEbucOI 5WfHI+Flg+S+Lq8Ug2y/68wjI5S4T1RXrQz/agutQJItgT08e7mhIpKeG3ASKRCY0noQKCUW2ku3t f7St60qofNJ4nqSq3oTkmMWycj4Qfm5JC8+ZV7LM40MHNgPvw8jI6hF0NI1UQSmxSU9NfZzBQ4d8O vgeqbFRoBhABkVSxgDfc0ISvtQbftYrAgmWrzL3w0TjR8fBWZqO1N0q5AKK8r4itQgIrNMN+MLYyZ 0YGQOs/zyY3hD+nL6dpowg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tHxkN-0005p7-GR; Sun, 01 Dec 2024 23:09:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:21:44 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325937 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > It doesn't _really_ matter (IMHO) who's > doing it - even if a discusser is a decider > (maintainer). What matters is to get the > discussion viewed (and maybe participated > in) by a _wider audience_. I agree completely. When the topic of a thread wanders from A to B, there's no reason to blame anyone. It is natural that sometimes discussions wander, and sometimes this wandering can convert a discussion of fixing a bug into a decision about features. When that happens, we should recognize that the topic has changed, and handle the new topic in the way that it calls for. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)