From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: My resignation from Emacs development Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 01:10:30 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32171"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 23 07:11:08 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tEjMK-0008EH-5h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2024 07:11:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tEjLl-0004G1-Oh; Sat, 23 Nov 2024 01:10:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tEjLj-0004Cw-Qr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2024 01:10:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tEjLj-0007m9-3d; Sat, 23 Nov 2024 01:10:31 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=MDzx5bUIe7TbifL/RsUcYxbA2Y9kOhzUOs8efCm6zfE=; b=FcAw2Ct6F344 ZjYl7g9iAEedRso9u4nW4hAIwtPGpEI3oKoIJ6uOK8qXjoLNtKGIdRFvJ0ZfjwM/v3Zn5ysVtqsy2 jExR48Z6Pgydt5+yOiHkNSYHZ841K0s6h4rIUJe0CPrsoq+dykMEuL6cZfWrCz26XAZpUMvTjTDuZ Lakk1OZdjU+pdeJn2/XhWQBkcAwjXxfTPiBf+8wj0na+mJxhswNJLY6oO2STJktxXyBvGOeAGG6jq gjSfTjXWMnY7BsNxHaf/AUJD4vFbwt4eOdsjSxwE6AkQNnbfFw4ZoIHRKSA3xUWPedWbJiW1+Mail iv3okVxEinnmHMiGjeF/Eg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tEjLi-0006VH-GY; Sat, 23 Nov 2024 01:10:30 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Alan Mackenzie on Wed, 20 Nov 2024 15:13:18 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325602 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Names are important. They have power. To take somebody's/somthing's > name and misuse it is an exercise of aggression. Try using "Emacs" or > even "free software" to mean something different, and see just how > quickly you would hear back from Richard Stallman. Is this really the case? I am trying to figure out what concrete events those descriptions could refer to, and I can't be sure. Depending on the details of the practcie in quetsion, I might say that it causes a big problem. Or I might not. But if everyone involved is motivated by good will, I would not call it "aggression". That word asserts injustice and bad will. I'm sure the people now disagreeing here all want to make Emacs as good as can be, and that all are pursuing goals that are indirividually desirable, even if they conflict in practice. So let's see if we can find a compromise solution that gives the best of both goals. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)