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Making a better Emacs is making sure that e.g. Alan feels welcome and
happy to contribute, clearly that has failed completley.  That you,
Eli, and Stefan K hide behind "oh, we don't think there is anything
wrong, just take a break" and think it is just fine is beyond
bewildering.

Please take a step back (instead of quoting the GKC), and consider
what is going on currently is not working to the satisfaction of many
people, to the point of very much appreciated hackers like Alan.