From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: My resignation from Emacs development Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 09:29:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <86frnkpujt.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9464"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 21 15:30:46 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tE8Cj-0002EQ-FQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:30:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tE8By-0008V7-Ft; Thu, 21 Nov 2024 09:29:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tE8Bv-0008Uq-K6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2024 09:29:55 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tE8Bu-0003X7-Qm; Thu, 21 Nov 2024 09:29:54 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=p8dcKjdY6gxCQCglH6S5iDPOqGoQXJ2Nz1ivEBCzHvY=; b=l0/bzaiY0H2t K4AaolMloeKwODKlr5KmA1VbtDDmcccwIkvrVjbLDELw4RuYa/bd+IsoAUHRPB//HV+cfaquPpH4k ul8snnzN1kbyuhfrvCJRvOKc1NDr0eFU6vf9yJzqIXQi3WmcF0J3CI+oOT+OIZUSawBA2hUrxY5qi M5yj/r116oIaj2tyF8V356FiWBocnRVOfY7Ul6QVJlVoP3AUUmsTa0JswF+BQ6EdX3XR5Htj7ZlmQ f1QTo82tc4D44naTAA7JKNC3+MPPzVooPOmjNClU4QAofInpnFz6c7E+ZR3x0rK57G4y7x520N+OU kZvhQa7HoYVjXA12Tecx/Q==; Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tE8Bq-0007e1-VC; Thu, 21 Nov 2024 09:29:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: <86frnkpujt.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:48:06 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325549 Archived-At: > I've had continual trouble over the last ~20 years with what Stefan has > done, and how he's done it. Nobody else even comes close. I can only say that I completely disagree with your unfavorable (to say the least) description of Stefan's conduct here, and regret and am very sorry that you somehow came to these conclusions, which IMO are very wrong. This has been brewing for a long time and you're putting your head into the sand Eli, Alan is utterly on point. Your comment is not helping to mitigate the damage that has been caused in the least, and making it worse.