From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Martin Edstrom" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Reconsider defaults for use-package-vc-prefer-newest Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 01:51:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21497"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "emacs-devel" To: "chad" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 16 01:52:41 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1spz2m-0005UV-5C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 01:52:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1spz24-00066X-D7; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 19:51:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1spz21-000669-RO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 19:51:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailtransmit05.runbox.com ([2a0c:5a00:149::26]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1spz20-0002bi-0G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 19:51:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailtransmit02.runbox ([10.9.9.162] helo=aibo.runbox.com) by mailtransmit05.runbox.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1spz1u-00CF0V-RR; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 01:51:46 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=runbox.eu; s=selector1; h=Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:CC:To:From: MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; bh=gKAh1xEcaPq/A14NGqVOTgeRkBoJJPuMEVEijNxhByA=; b=O0trLdV91IPTRREecVVikrzh4/ iMBgQModRm1Yj/QsCwEjl6KcwpulSErps+QPCUWGpQbTSiyVIJQ/sffDT91x4e+xRVVgVGf75xfzY wqCFkXNflWa81w8mxkkK42PMJE6O9z0nmMScv9CdVNNkvVZ2yE1tR/XppTl6o4EEdGs2vDDRvHuwe TCuopBtr9U/Xhpj0xoaUgMKvgbY9mmpuVeiugaUjJ4Ygi1xgtuoHxA+dqSv9chy6VM4YOWmR42KDu rNj6DABhYEWl7YqMl5tTh6ZOxvomvlER7kKIavYwhN93B/6yk9ad803YkaH/JKCE9YSWcotLsw4ov 6zD1P8EQ==; Original-Received: from [10.9.9.128] (helo=rmmprod06.runbox) by mailtransmit02.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1spz1u-0005Im-3t; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 01:51:46 +0200 Original-Received: from mail by rmmprod06.runbox with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1spz1u-0005zU-2c; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 01:51:46 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline Original-Received: from [Authenticated alias (1196375)] by runbox.com with http (RMM6); Sun, 15 Sep 2024 23:51:46 GMT X-RMM-Aliasid: 1196375 X-Mailer: RMM6 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a0c:5a00:149::26; envelope-from=meedstrom@runbox.eu; helo=mailtransmit05.runbox.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323649 Archived-At: On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 18:12:00 -0400, chad wrote: > I don't know how the code path in the (use-package :vc) works, but > presumably there's a clear point where the two behaviors (that is, > vc-use-package's supposed former update-by-default versus use-package :vc= 's > ...prefer-newer 'nil lack of update) diverge. I'm asking if there's a > reasonable way to change the default behavior from the supposed-old > yes-update and the current default wait-for-Package-version into something > that leaves the package alone but warns the user, perhaps via *Messages*. If I understand correctly, you suggest that a message be printed when there= is any new commit since the last Package-Version? Something like: "310 packages installed, 237 have new commits" But I think people would just learn to ignore this message...=