From: "Martin Edstrom" <meedstrom@runbox.eu>
To: "chad" <yandros@gmail.com>
Cc: "emacs-devel" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Reconsider defaults for use-package-vc-prefer-newest
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 23:09:05 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1spwUT-0004Ps-ME@rmmprod05.runbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO2hHWbC=BcDKOAn_cxbYtJN-3j3KE9Tim5G14p6cfE6=-zEfg@mail.gmail.com>
> Please forgive me if I misunderstand the situation, but I wonder if it
> wouldn't be possible to suggest a patch that leaves the conservative
> default but detects the potential "catastrophe" and warns the user?
>
> Thanks,
> ~Chad
The "catastrophe" would be a situation such as:
- In 2020, Developer releases Package for the first time
- In 2021, Developer tires of bumping Package-Version, leaves it at 0.9
- In 2024, Package is now at 2.2 according to the convenient git/hg tag, or maybe it has no official version beyond just "0.9.0.50-git"
- User installs Package using (use-package :vc)
- User gets the version from 2021
- It doesn't seem to work
- 10 such users give up on Package
- The 11th user files the bug reports
- Bug reports are strange and make no sense
- User and Developer finally figure out that it's because the user used (use-package :vc) which fetched the 2021 version
To counteract this would amount to a heuristic that looks up the package repository online and compares the age of recent commits with the commit fetched by (use-package :vc), but what is the threshold that you would set to trigger the warning? I don't think it is realistically doable.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-15 21:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-15 19:52 Reconsider defaults for use-package-vc-prefer-newest Martin Edström
2024-09-15 20:41 ` chad
2024-09-15 21:09 ` Martin Edstrom [this message]
2024-09-15 22:12 ` chad
2024-09-15 23:51 ` Martin Edstrom
2024-09-16 11:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-16 16:46 ` Martin Edström
2024-09-16 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-16 20:16 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-17 11:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 3:38 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-19 6:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 12:08 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-19 12:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2024-09-15 17:38 Martin Edström
2024-09-15 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-15 19:46 ` Martin Edstrom
2024-09-16 11:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-16 15:24 ` Martin Edström
2024-09-16 16:15 ` Martin Edström
2024-09-16 17:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-18 14:30 ` Martin Edström
2024-09-14 12:09 Martin Edström
2024-09-19 11:49 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-19 18:50 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-19 20:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-19 20:31 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-20 6:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 15:14 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-20 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 16:56 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-20 17:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 20:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-21 7:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-21 14:31 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-21 15:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-21 15:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-19 21:02 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-20 20:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-20 23:38 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-21 7:06 ` chad
2024-09-21 14:27 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-21 15:59 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-21 19:04 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-22 15:30 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-22 20:08 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-25 12:06 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-25 13:15 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-25 12:07 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-25 15:15 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-25 20:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-25 20:48 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-29 2:13 ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-29 7:25 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-29 13:55 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-26 23:23 ` Charles Choi
2024-09-27 0:17 ` Adam Porter
2024-09-27 0:33 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-27 6:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-29 14:22 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-29 14:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-11 18:54 ` Suhail Singh
2024-10-12 5:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 4:57 ` Tony Zorman
2024-09-20 19:37 ` Martin Edström
2024-09-20 21:05 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-21 14:44 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-21 14:58 ` Tony Zorman
2024-09-21 15:10 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-21 16:09 ` Philip Kaludercic
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