From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 14:07:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: <875xto7lbn.fsf@dancol.org> <86ed8ce2mh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <81b620d7-18a6-4c6e-8517-147a411ee882@gutov.dev> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31494"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: juri@linkov.net, dancol@dancol.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 02 20:08:27 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sOhvX-0007xg-VQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 20:08:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOhv4-0005o6-2h; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 14:07:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOhv1-0005l8-Ff for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 14:07:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOhv0-0006nB-0z; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 14:07:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=rfZuHILdG8U6H4Ulk9AuN+ILeRkG1Li0afrek7QLi2c=; b=eO8kFjTD+PJj EbdcHRT4Hq+8ZIs4ZnY4fas//spHFUbMuz0ZhCjlq4G0j9ad061/R+erRWKFh11howE3BqZS5WC+b R5FPWQjQRT+yCRu9o5KKEM7j8f57YgzuR+fL1HbX660FwekvFW5tXZexryZ7aSOZcsGibnIYWSV53 HYZRWGNY8Pgtdha6U2a8Pl8VftXQ9sP668ZtORatD55uryzESjTbtffRXS8PF9t2P6J73Das2G2di MBwUlIaUYV9072s3cNp7Jsgk+CFvX4W/SW985l4GBGwYSFOwFhgn//LmRjCVr0EMABpWIa+PK+NCS zLhghw1MwzDbi5YtyZOeWA==; Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOhuv-0004mO-Ho; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 14:07:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: <81b620d7-18a6-4c6e-8517-147a411ee882@gutov.dev> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:03:43 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321191 Archived-At: On 02/07/2024 09:50, Juri Linkov wrote: >>> Thus, I don't think I see any compelling reason not to go ahead with >>> this change. I would propose that we now start discussing the specifics >>> of how to go about doing that (patches, proposed alternative solutions). >> How's this? >> >> +@kindex C-x 4 LEFT >> +@kindex C-x 4 RIGHT >> +@kindex C-x 4 UP >> +@kindex C-x 4 DOWN > I can't believe someone might want to use such long key sequences > for one of the most frequent actions. It's even longer than > 'C-x o' it's supposed to improve. I think there are no better keys > for switching windows than arrows with a modifier. I'm going to ask a dangerous question: do people use the existing bindings for "C-x " and "C-x "? Absolutely; C-x and C-x would be interesting things to bind something to...