From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emms and the Spotify Search API Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2024 22:55:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87a5jz76ms.fsf@rabkins.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4609"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Yoni Rabkin Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 08 04:55:38 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sFmF0-0000zr-Fd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 04:55:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFmEY-00040R-AF; Fri, 07 Jun 2024 22:55:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFmEW-0003zc-TY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jun 2024 22:55:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFmEW-0004rs-L7; Fri, 07 Jun 2024 22:55:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=CLYt3wwA4UA/YTv9VDw/HXNQqzPAYrowMUwpAY8LUls=; b=fDib2R5adh4R yU3lkP+lklRYON5YKnghH2bWjaYHnKfMSdidTS6O8KQbeRlwdjgaPJDGR2W7SIcSBFPFw4eWa7/Zw uvpOycG+DMzEp23A6dTor0Ujq//v0qn1ey1THi/hRujWuJjv3xUbbP6qYG0Hu7jX+XFb552l/WxeB K8+NV7WiMVmXyUX4N23SKy49Upzs/jwF8bIdGVZeJbuXiwLtI+ohXNZU/74aYAoaB4VNczvl7bpb0 jRpkBB+pqI0viKJTOXWu3z8WD7wuoxSs81xzqhWdfpK+d4i8ycIVJXqcjsije6/V5+8A0eIfBQste cfUxVBQlQU9G8APNc8gFWA==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFmEW-0004A0-8f; Fri, 07 Jun 2024 22:55:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87a5jz76ms.fsf@rabkins.net> (message from Yoni Rabkin on Wed, 05 Jun 2024 11:26:35 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319879 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > To be clear: I'm not considering streaming from Spotify via Emms. I'm > only considering whether to support the Spotify music database search > API in Emms. In practical terms, what is the use of searching the Spotify music database? What specific next steps would it enable a user to do? Is there a useful next step that can be done without nonfree software? Please correct me if there is one, but I tend to think the answer is no. > What I'd like feedback on is whether or not adding support for search on > Spotify's music database would be tantamount to supporting or > encouraging people to use Spotify's proprietary streaming client and > services. If the feature to search the database has only one use, and that is to follow it up by accessing the database using Spotify's DRM-afflicting client software, then the search feature would be tantamount to endorsing that software. But if the search feature is useful in some other ways, then depending on what those other ways are, perhaps the conclusion would be otherwise. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)