From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.comp.tex.texinfo.general Subject: Re: Info download service Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:13:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: <837cknvkrx.fsf@gnu.org> <83r0iuuacz.fsf@gnu.org> <83frz4mmef.fsf@gnu.org> <87h6jiy5n1.fsf@brilhante.top> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28770"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, help-texinfo@gnu.org To: Patrice Dumas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 15 04:14:20 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rPDQa-0007H8-2V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2024 04:14:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rPDPa-0008IX-4W; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:13:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rPDPX-0008Hz-QD; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:13:15 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rPDPX-0002mP-CV; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:13:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=ONU/h+dIQ77CoSGYYtBtzy5FL00MHws8+L/J0twyhjA=; b=bnfppnnUTe7d IGqH47WgiI/jvTLT308fwB+C8JC0SRA2l3RYDd1dVDpl5Bn5Xindoh1GgabQkQY1XjjJSy7OR+Zn6 AWiKoQ3ezcKLkb9AdA//NAXfrDlNWM1QY7BqNgNdHUYv0Am8w2M+J9/K+nq64UUJAl3l3AHMFkvU3 PAxhwmGkprsvfSTVqzOAktqftVz1gQqOskI9bXhGsVjGEHerJ9ikzA/Yi/SXmbW0DrDhvCg92jvHf ydZcZaE0heoV5cblKCtis2xQr1MN4DjnOl/w15sJlk64xh7S5mMWNFx70qxCusmCFF14wLN449Lg8 gdRKabkA8+KSQ5zz1kjRrw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rPDPW-0002Ol-ND; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:13:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Patrice Dumas on Sat, 13 Jan 2024 21:54:54 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314980 gmane.comp.tex.texinfo.general:3420 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > That being said, even if it is only centralization of where to find > manuals, any centralization is not ideal, but I can't see another way to > do it. Some centralization is important for reasons beyond convenience. We need to give the community a centralized method of finding the official GNU manuals, and the translations whose translators we at least are in contact with. It would not be good to recommend that people search for anything that says it is a translation of a GNU manual, and take that on faith. > This is already possible to do that, most of the info manuals are also > quite easily available from the web. Of course there is still some work > to do before making it easier, as we are discussing here, but in any case, if > anybody wants to do that code, we cannot stop Distributions from using > it. I do not believe that it would be a code hard to do, so I do not > think that whether we do it or not changes much the possibility of > having only online info manuals. Those words are alarming but vague. They seem to say that some problems are impossible to prevent, but I can't tell what problems you mean. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)