From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:34:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: <875y0i7e43.fsf@hoowl.se> <87mstsx804.fsf@hoowl.se> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9781"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Hanno Perrey Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 01 04:34:54 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rK94n-0002ER-Fj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 01 Jan 2024 04:34:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rK94D-0003FD-Ma; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:34:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rK94C-0003Cl-LR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:34:16 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rK94C-0004jt-3J; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:34:16 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=F0CeK+eyW6n970/BCl7pWty2h1tMvlRimj4zYbK3cKo=; b=L45iDb79jufo DvDmeeiTRZP/2aUBfdFWp3LIWZR/+lgRGhJiwGn4HV31KSnwU7xE12WCvEfGWQl4yEMuMYgplQafl YY2KgekiQ4DTH0KEgMGqPcBCKg+Ee8xMQ+WpWsQFKACRW3gXGETcwainsUuj5BM7w3KNzd0FF1Rdn A69kkHIoluqHKL0QdT6nyvvWf411L5GVowIOlQ57Bj+6R6vskCVwtJDoLg4dfRI9qTAFG+WxJoT7J CTGatsF7xp7Zg3RifsmJk94PrRmm2u6Qr3K6iktUaGofz3MMt+fWN67sNGTIk6r0U+8ZKwgn0P270 oEg+DenmCaLiiKQFBeWsWA==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rK94A-0001X7-7Z; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:34:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87mstsx804.fsf@hoowl.se> (message from Hanno Perrey on Sat, 30 Dec 2023 11:29:32 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314408 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > At the same time, it seems to be implemented in a way that imposes an > > evitable restriction -- requiring use of Org mode. > Not quite, as this proposal is about two distinct packages, jami-bot and > org-jami-bot. I undersand that. I'm taling about org-jami-bot. Here's what you said about it: > > org-jami-bot builds upon jami-bot and extends it with Org mode capture > > functionality for text messages and images. I commented on that: > This feature will be useful. I am not concretely sure what "capture > functionality" includes, but if it provides higher-level communication > between Emacs and Jami, that is a good thing. > At the same time, it seems to be implemented in a way that imposes an > evitable restriction -- requiring use of Org mode. All that was meant to be about org-jami-bot. Thanks for giving more info about jami-bot itself. It sounds useful, and I am glad it does not depend on Org mode. I'm not proposing we write a full UI for Jami implemented in Emacs. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)