From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Instead of pcase Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2023 22:20:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87fs169mjj.fsf@posteo.net> <093f11a1-57c2-5e56-d39b-26fef1c67cbb@gutov.dev> <25942.25061.217864.329049@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> <87zfzdcz6z.fsf@posteo.net> <763f067b-4ca9-1eba-9f3c-424c38589e9c@gutov.dev> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36596"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, philipk@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lynn Winebarger Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 02 04:21:22 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r9GZG-0009LH-Dt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2023 04:21:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r9GYe-00086j-HB; Fri, 01 Dec 2023 22:20:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r9GYc-00086K-8T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2023 22:20:43 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r9GYb-0008F0-U5; Fri, 01 Dec 2023 22:20:41 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=hr+sVJ8yjvvbPH/7dYPdPRIUz+9JwzEc2qeBrWWvA88=; b=ofCAkhUvEvmi XGIQ7H/8pgng9nFRFIT+7Ubi0AKLaF9oxLG+Hcjrj/Qyq3wAqlau63Q7bGnYRqsXkoZU/ui3ixvPC 6eoCVMqEDttPIor2bZjOFy4myZwyzJxsYLWct2B9P6DSOb4VjRNWPfgmmJfJBRfhAvvyHbLyUie2W +kn72CAD4ju3WcuoTgGicHtfM+AzthIhjG9MlmphGjM/XOX10CENiJZpByCSNuZme5tJ2tNC6wuV2 n3zmaH7vOJiDyw+QD9g4phgDJHpWOqJZEf4ZgosEuNtaw+TXc2nMN462oTEGZE/qe0ZGUHMfUFIaE ce+H8ds2LENaC+H3m6VSQg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r9GYa-0000Fd-SQ; Fri, 01 Dec 2023 22:20:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Lynn Winebarger on Thu, 30 Nov 2023 14:14:04 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:313455 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > But a person who is just starting to look at this code, and reads that > > function first, is likely to be impeded in starting to reach that sort > > of understanding. > > > I have to respectfully disagree - dotted pair notation is a pretty > fundamental part of LISP syntax, regardless of dialect. That is true, but it is not pertinent to my finding that pcase code confusing. I know what dotted pairs mean, but I was not sure what they meant in pcase patterns. Likewise for Eli. It is unkind and unhelpful to lecture him about what dotted paris are. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)