From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Instead of pcase Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:59:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <21eda04f-b974-0c56-ce6c-4fc0810e4e13@gutov.dev> <87edgkouoa.fsf@gnu.org> <8a43628e-0c00-2690-bd86-f355674d218b@gutov.dev> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24421"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: jemarch@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 22 04:00:54 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r5dTx-0006B2-Cs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2023 04:00:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r5dSo-0007le-2v; Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:59:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r5dSm-0007hs-Mx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:59:40 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r5dSm-000332-Eq; Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:59:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=flWHLp8+f7A7GVdW5o1zb9eC55rf1LfXj9YO3u5Mszs=; b=F88f9rbUxfSL dtJ0OKp4s8HswxtDmRcGCIDUM6LAHLuS4hn/kkEYhBjQD08oNXHVwNTOiXfYaL3lJ66NETWwbp5Ko H4iWue//h87xU3CBrUkO0kj3+Ofk9hsxy2ZHhOVbhkuzr20mk3Kim3EEz2KgBO3z5lg+an2nPGtzB SA4scjbQgd60c0g8LNlVfkGGSVovaa++rQuIzD+H/FhTgRc65kMlQJz97fsOo7agY+xG+sy1vtTc6 /uhFvQe49la7yEkUh1lGzm45jj+cq/NAtCfXq3XpP8tp86Ybbz/YBGIGtUoE5SvZRYLEdX8+J399C f+puGsx6eIpgeTWF9lK+eg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r5dSm-000491-66; Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:59:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8a43628e-0c00-2690-bd86-f355674d218b@gutov.dev> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Tue, 21 Nov 2023 04:01:28 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:313124 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > In Lisps, most of the complexity simply moved to standard library > (and/or other libraries as well). This seems to presume a principle of "conservation of complexity", but that is not so. Complexity doesn't simply "move". For example, pcase replicates (with differences) complexity that already existed in various Lisp functions and constructs. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)