From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making package.el talk over Tor Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 22:39:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8734ybkqf4.fsf@disroot.org> <87sf54q2t8.fsf@posteo.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8356"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: akib@disroot.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 19 04:40:32 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r4Yfg-00020M-8G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2023 04:40:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r4Yep-0001To-6F; Sat, 18 Nov 2023 22:39:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r4Yen-0001TJ-7Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2023 22:39:37 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r4Yem-0000CO-AM; Sat, 18 Nov 2023 22:39:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=yAVz0WFuTJCpft6RCi8A7+2d7YGOadI9i3bZu7QWi/c=; b=RygdidZTqbfn qcrgHWUDXjPxv/qpnMlsFYiSFGGO/4TQQfaYZEGVt+EZPrcqD2cd3jY/x9PaWz8Up0IW5f+u30uFf Yt+budiZyxLdSxQspAYCRCujxX079jVdF0pmaJjG1UK96f+yPFvQ28ZKifY8KdVrS1m2FESb6Pm4y CkL8bEEN8ltdpea2qr8l0k1xpJ3s6RjQ5ESeT08co7WWeYmOiFFIxxDql+2vyUGR3b57egDx4uUle 3b8r54mqLXdGoD5zY4hHfjBKlXzPKbVE+prfN+ipF00xzzUbDbhHHbBajmebOalUy8inXTAzm/MHY LjLY9ow8ooK+LkVdx9iFxg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r4Yem-0003g1-12; Sat, 18 Nov 2023 22:39:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87sf54q2t8.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:03:31 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312940 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > No, url.el eventually calls `make-network-process', that directly > invokes the respective networking system calls, not making it possible > to interject torsocks. Is this the code you mean? (open-network-stream name buffer host service :type gw-method ;; Use non-blocking socket if we can. :nowait (and (featurep 'make-network-process) (url-asynchronous url-current-object) '(:nowait t))) How can I make that use TOR? I could set `url-gateway-method' to specify some other method, but what other value would make it possible to put in torsocks? > What I believe Akib meant was to start Emacs > with torsocks, I think that is no good -- all subprocesses of Emacs would be compelled to use torsocks too. > because one will continue to leak fingerprintable > metadata (specially inside of Emacs) Could you give me an example of what you mean? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)