From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs design and architecture Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 06:19:20 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87fs3ur9u8.fsf@dataswamp.org> <875y4moiiq.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83r0n4rj78.fsf@gnu.org> <83cyynpmvd.fsf@gnu.org> <838r99mh40.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0n12rav.fsf@yahoo.com> <87a5tl9cm3.fsf@thaodan.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36578"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eller.helmut@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn?= Bidar Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 19 12:20:25 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qiXqA-0009Ch-Ry for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 12:20:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qiXpE-0008Dt-CS; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 06:19:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qiXpC-0008C7-7d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 06:19:22 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qiXpB-0007E1-FW; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 06:19:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=ys6SPzYbXcma25tuTG6o2nCuli+l2iYM2txL3qExhk0=; b=eWSmNo9h3sKj tQ/V0BIglI7TX5550eReEl3gJf0B1s6NfB7x9ZOGB20xjHCWES0JObq0ALMFIXZ1+Yre1eL5NJQ0N 0KNOKjHeFK6hr1E7nXNpY9h4QF8g0lZokmnRZ9G7VwtGsVTL2MnnowA70OpzZZYWuxhHVZ1bWNIIf CvTm+5RCxiBc/H+j61tvy0nYd5yIHZRfuAULLcdYqBMti8ZqQlqGrqwmkNhXupWNTJ6oTieRyacgC D34l38cMkymHMme34Y6O26r9Pau0CJS+2+BSdre7jdoTtyXM3CQn+ndY2CzkPL2TTEeawETyPFHFF anC5/HWHsigqhmqnQCo81A==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qiXpA-0004AN-Ht; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 06:19:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87a5tl9cm3.fsf@thaodan.de> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C3=B6rn?= Bidar on Sun, 17 Sep 2023 16:02:28 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310741 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > because standards > are so open the user is free to choose which browser to use. That assertion would be true, supposing that Emacs communicates with the browser using only standard protocols and some free browser supports them. I don't think that is what people are proposing though. But if people implemented that method with standard protocols, the problem I bring up would happen anyway. If most users were to communicate with Emacs using Chrome, which is non-free, Emacs would become an incomplere editor that people usually complete using a nonfree program. That would be a terrible setback for the GNU Project and the free software movement. Any gains in convenience would be a side issue compared with that. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)