From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New Package for NonGNU-ELPA: clojure-ts-mode Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:08:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87il9kksqz.fsf@dfreeman.email> <83350ncbns.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyzrjbd8.fsf@dfreeman.email> <83zg2vav46.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7j99304.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87wmxj27fn.fsf@dfreeman.email> <831qfrptiq.fsf@gnu.org> <57429221-d9be-5791-e975-b3539905e2f6@gutov.dev> <83a5udlj47.fsf@gnu.org> <87a5udk1co.fsf@posteo.net> <835y51kslv.fsf@gnu.org> <7a82c524-1aa1-e755-e377-673ebb107a44@gutov.dev> <83r0nok8s4.fsf@gnu.org> <87il90znco.fsf@yahoo.com> <1977fbef-307b-bcf4-9448-64f26916dd65@gutov.dev> <87edjozlqq.fsf@yahoo.com> <43ddad10-49dd-1c49-ebfe-51689780b315@gutov.dev> <87msyciplu.fsf@posteo.net> <83h6okk3oe.fsf@gnu.org> <87edjoindn.fsf@posteo.net> <83bkesjwuk.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37616"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lynn Winebarger Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 31 04:08:27 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qbX6h-0009UX-93 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 04:08:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qbX6Q-00068z-Gy; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:08:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qbX6P-00065C-ER for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:08:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qbX6P-0006aA-5P; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:08:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=h4crFGcc0DKb1AAYzvFfWeZUCHnRW/REjwKfBUEFPnA=; b=XaSnawdQj7ei EZ1QCPKjxNIUYkudM9zPtbKUJcbMDoskCPCrd5tewWAlxnoIlh+08FOonb/ZUgJ3gDw41UjBL9uQP uDW8WJwxeiqIGIqq+ocxIU+zbdK4hyaFk9Nn88sv+7/pBu3x5kppt+gCn81lcbFVK8D0NPGBXKBoM CeW8xXAdU+1QIGJr7r33Ejmn8YHWm8ZWTey8Az5dw8LE66J2Ov1IldGT4rYIC6pNaFqz6B5D1KFKi XOzPTpm9HPSuUxeEuRYZExrYFBlKoZHDkwoEIufXbAXzUei6otWLipxYLpTpdHlId8xhQazheWytF euTgIYaY5rY3or6mzWrhFg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qbX6O-0003hI-Rc; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:08:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Lynn Winebarger on Mon, 28 Aug 2023 11:22:21 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309579 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > How much of your concern with obtaining copyright assignments is the > developer's willingness to give their own signature, and how much is > around the hassle of needing to involve their employer, even when > their contributions are not at all part of their employment? First, I have to point out that they are both necessary. The human authors cannot assign the copyright if an employer can legally claim it. By signing the employer disclaimer, the employer waives the possibility of claiming the copyright, clearing the way for the authors to assign it. In practice, cases where the employer won't sign are a tiny fraction. Some employers object to parts of the text, but we discuss it with them and can usually reach agreement. That doesn't seem to be relevant to the clojure-mode situation, we now know. The developers objections are others. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)