From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Org mode and Emacs Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:32:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83msyemjx8.fsf@gnu.org> <871qfpoij6.fsf@gnu.org> <87fs45ivyo.fsf@localhost> <87h6okga15.fsf@localhost> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7196"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 28 03:33:02 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qaR7l-0001ao-If for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2023 03:33:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaR7F-0006hs-E1; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:32:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaR7E-0006hL-7w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:32:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaR7D-0006jI-U9; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:32:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=bAboCkSrOxMqu/U0htJyW94RKwfYOtRN9Hns7ePGMFg=; b=hKHkIMfeDfDG PwngjONU8TnvhUxPpUqiytWJGh/SsFSbDYhCDg8Ejl6dV2tOvNaQ25xe608LMvpgyvQLeEKCciaiD Po5cPtXpNOzF74qIbEC8qcT9X/yqTARuz81+EgKjHN/1I+gtk3HlLi+sqgJxOSHIUBYmBKqaJCV6G Q0kH+q357ZVJv1vcfxVW6OVvrmbhDxfO41WX/5CEnOkC/AInCoyKmnzFqTNLOPU+20XsacEW1dT0j jVs/jU7zwXxYm0bBafYFHixEo3q+GHrWp1+S4XaZwfiEBvuo0d3OvE1RjnMLq/xgTpIeGdZRuI9vs 9Owx+nUTDTEWL6Bq0iEPNg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaR7D-0004xD-Lu; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:32:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87h6okga15.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Sun, 27 Aug 2023 08:32:54 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309389 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > Block marks are usually supported well enough by these formats. In the > > > > case of org it would be #+BEGIN_WHATEVER end #+END_WHATEVER I suppose. > > > > That syntax would do the job, but they are more clumsy than the syntax > > used by Texinfo: @WHATEVER and @end WHATEVER. In order for a modified > > Org mode syntax to be a step up, it should look as clean as Texinfo. > > > > Might it be posisble to simplify the syntax that Org would use for > > this? > I am not convinced that it is necessary. I won't claim it is _necessary_, but it would sure make these constructs more convenient. > Doing so will either be backward-incompatible or introduce more syntax > constructs to Org, making the syntax more complicated. Maybe it is ok for it to be backward-incompatible. I don't know for certain, but it looks like these constructs were recently added. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)