From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shrinking the C core Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2023 13:19:24 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20230809094655.793FC18A4654@snark.thyrsus.com> <87fs4pkkqi.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87jztzkgct.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87y1if8j8t.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <87y1ifi9fv.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87zg2uqdmv.fsf@localhost> <87edk3gbh3.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87jztvnuyb.fsf@localhost> <875y5bdutt.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87y1i6e1uh.fsf@localhost> <874jkub40o.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87jztqdw2l.fsf@localhost> <87msym9i4r.fsf@dataswamp.org> <877cpp914t.fsf@localhost> <871qfx8yfq.fsf@localhost> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6633"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 20 19:20:27 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qXm6F-0001Vk-Gh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 19:20:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXm5K-0002X3-Ap; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 13:19:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXm5H-0002Wt-Ti for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 13:19:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXm5F-0000l8-Lt; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 13:19:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=1rtSDq5p159PCIDmn3tNPXNbHiphQ1TXgr4qEpKN5cA=; b=Yt/YnhxBixqY IJo2wyR/KpKzFzf5b41UEk4SYLgaf7yq/rBaKV3lcAR1fQ/NwQ0XEIltcMeCsHGu5Fq+9zD/Ya0OU 0ZCWYLkwCFXGrSNcHo+XrU36WlmXztIRKXF+rJ9fS+EswMt5bGw4KnReRBLXlHx3QhKhxqyrCpc0m dlN12QsAjql60i5qqbRehKQUh4rZVEVEBGIcpllAhjcH8gsiLIZF3mnYJ9yBMTsLJKZIpAm/CN2u/ vcgVxeLvdleq1HQaJzO940X4RzYpxlb3kHoNjo9b6gY8XV4Qh8UiTh5lrzBLuN2oNisaW3Vx1leYu 9ai3qB/lBmyWK0ix6WJa6w==; Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXm5E-0002Ln-Kb; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 13:19:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <871qfx8yfq.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Sun, 20 Aug 2023 16:34:49 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:308975 Archived-At: Does not look too bad in terms of the number of instructions. And I do not see any obvious indirection. The Emacs VM will incure a switch to C for each call, SBCL doesn't. You really cannot see the difference that makes?