From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: contributing to Emacs Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2023 22:53:33 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83v8fnslfz.fsf@gnu.org> <339b006829e123a3f6eeaffbd66f557ea837fdcd.camel@yandex.ru> <87y1kgdax7.fsf@web.de> <83o7lc91kh.fsf@gnu.org> <87leggd2cu.fsf@web.de> <83ilbk8u1k.fsf@gnu.org> <448f75fb368e4ae61dd8bd7899047602a806228a.camel@yandex.ru> <83h6r48a02.fsf@gnu.org> <83mt0v70d3.fsf@gnu.org> <03bef840fc28d46a2ffbf9c94c18a3cbf96de08f.camel@yandex.ru> <83cz1q75do.fsf@gnu.org> <83o7la5cw0.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0q1my6k.fsf@thaodan.de> <87mt0nktkv.fsf@thaodan.de> <87ilb9p3g5.fsf@ypei.org> <87sfa2fqbs.fsf@ypei.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38954"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de, mailman@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Yuchen Pei Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 09 04:54:31 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qIKZD-0009vL-J6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2023 04:54:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qIKYS-0006Dr-CF; Sat, 08 Jul 2023 22:53:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qIKYJ-0006CC-Fb; Sat, 08 Jul 2023 22:53:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qIKYI-00061c-Di; Sat, 08 Jul 2023 22:53:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=L4bYg7oKavcqkw0bTsYyEjRJHUsA04/VPc/oCLIcL9s=; b=DV/dA4mtMxJ9 zYYHmHPb6/vce28mgnuBPv1X5/+U5YOcIG5FTH1WdKvd0CMQezwHUa8D8eqWIHY4k82g+klLc6Ohm zOq61hp4JTH0B59pgficxF6ern8VwQ5bMe8dwd1Fd9cBDfiy3kYuw6SxR04O+5Rbq1eCWMe1l2g7T FRRUhQ1AvfULiR/7TGANTJyAH5kyPFDgzxT9kaYV3sljrtLuGhhkPCKAxf5QUr7SETQ6hJ4XC0Npv +vEZYnd6N7pr5GZzInvsWKTpYt5T2i5oxlBJ+7TlQdcYdJ8qcW+v/h/HJndgPeTbtedTThEzREkN2 VB6qV1F43SwBWmj5dkfBiQ==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qIKYH-00027I-Bs; Sat, 08 Jul 2023 22:53:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87sfa2fqbs.fsf@ypei.org> (message from Yuchen Pei on Wed, 05 Jul 2023 23:19:51 +1000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307635 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > This is why I think it would be a good idea to write emacs/elisp client > packages to replace web/javascript clients. The former is much more free > than javascript you can't change. I agree. > It > does not solve the server side issue (SaaSS), but it does offer complete > freedom on the client side. If a service does SaaSS, that problem is inherent in the server's essence. Nothing we might do on the client side will alter it. I just don't use those servers. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)