From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: contributing to Emacs Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 22:55:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83v8fnslfz.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8fnh1h2.fsf@web.de> <83mt0zs9rc.fsf@gnu.org> <0a968a4e1b267c0f15dd237e6ea12a709fc06d5e.camel@yandex.ru> <838rcisj7o.fsf@gnu.org> <6537fa5fa5c1fe8437ed99ee0988e35895f5a54b.camel@yandex.ru> <8423a35750d8d8e0437c7708f6b4d0bbdfdb7fe0.camel@yandex.ru> <6981052a75913ea435ae2adaccdaa1c66252a6df.camel@yandex.ru> <6a22f3608f37e238ffbd20d6dead86d3aa76d01e.camel@yandex.ru> <87ttv5d261.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32712"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ams@gnu.org, hi-angel@yandex.ru, eliz@gnu.org, arne_bab@web.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 20 04:56:18 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qBRXW-0008HZ-51 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 04:56:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBRWk-0005FG-O4; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 22:55:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBRWi-0005CQ-RZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 22:55:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBRWi-00078F-Cg; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 22:55:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=nzRMu2bnuLinCYlgkxr6AuBbsyDyZM9nebnIHugE7+I=; b=naoZjtjI2ZPe ioQk5F1HPQBT5ZEsPZtcsb8wUudRgJmAIGnPfvL2PUebwymRPFkq+lHR4MgiOTbr4Xm1yz82lJK9H M0vV0xLXUp48HwU2uY5th8Ts/nIl/vnQCWm45XJUpfE2/ud/24aPX6Yako+B/gOw2uBfIZ6igHFDq w69cX+NB5lXOE6l7jcoiwFr+A4sPHj9iQXPCA95spGqILXwB3oHsXgNNRipkkgVphLTE4IQnKqQYH ba7V1AoopbunTHB5lIvYshlnhicPvl+T5ZiEsMhi7ZTz/Tg3adobf7meCkQldtWz9YO5NH5tSex97 BViwWKiPr7svJtJunqP4Uw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBRWh-0001Vf-Aj; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 22:55:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87ttv5d261.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Sun, 18 Jun 2023 08:50:14 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307071 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Richard, would you please look at the thread starting at > <83v8fnslfz.fsf@gnu.org>, and make a final decision? That was a big discussion and I've been very backlogged. It seems to be around 150 messages, according to grep. I can't read that many! It would take me hours. It seems to be a matter of ease of maintenance, not directly a specific technical point, and not an ethical issue. I think the active maintainers are the best people to decide this. > I'm afraid that if > the Android port isn't eventually installed, there will be a fork, 1. Why would it be a fork, rather than updating a set of changes as has happened with Emacs for MacOS? 2. Why would a fork be a very bad thing? > and I > don't have the energy to work on both the fork and Emacs at the same > time. 3. Could you please tell me in 20 lines what the crucial issue is? Has someone proposed a policy that we don't install a big change if only one person can understand it? 4. Could we recruit Android wizards to help work on it? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)